Meeting of the Parliament

Meeting date: Wednesday, June 28, 2023

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Decision Time

There are five questions to be put as a result of today’s business. The first question is, that motion S6M-09722, in the name of Angela Constance, on the Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill, which is United Kingdom legislation, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

We will have a short suspension to enable members to access the digital voting system. [Interruption.]

Apologies. I was not in the chair earlier when members had been voting. I am out of synch. Please cast your votes now.

The vote is now closed.

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I had an app catastrophe. I would have voted no.

Thank you, Mr Findlay. We will ensure that that is recorded.

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app is not working. I would have voted yes.

Thank you, Mr Rennie. We will ensure that that is recorded.

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I could not connect to the app. I would have voted yes.

Thank you, Mr Torrance. We will ensure that that is recorded.

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I could not get connected. I would have voted yes.

Thank you, Ms Stewart. We will ensure that that is recorded.

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app would not connect. I would have voted yes.

Thank you, Ms Villalba. We will ensure that that is recorded.

For

Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP)
Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)
Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)
Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP)
Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire South) (SNP)
Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab)
Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)
Boyack, Sarah (Lothian) (Lab)
Brown, Keith (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP)
Brown, Siobhian (Ayr) (SNP)
Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green)
Callaghan, Stephanie (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP)
Chapman, Maggie (North East Scotland) (Green)
Clark, Katy (West Scotland) (Lab)
Coffey, Willie (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP)
Cole-Hamilton, Alex (Edinburgh Western) (LD)
Constance, Angela (Almond Valley) (SNP)
Dey, Graeme (Angus South) (SNP)
Don, Natalie (Renfrewshire North and West) (SNP)
Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Dornan, James (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP)
Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab)
Fairlie, Jim (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP)
FitzPatrick, Joe (Dundee City West) (SNP)
Forbes, Kate (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP)
Gibson, Kenneth (Cunninghame North) (SNP)
Gilruth, Jenny (Mid Fife and Glenrothes) (SNP)
Gougeon, Mairi (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP)
Grahame, Christine (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP)
Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Gray, Neil (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP)
Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green)
Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP)
Harvie, Patrick (Glasgow) (Green)
Haughey, Clare (Rutherglen) (SNP)
Hepburn, Jamie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP)
Hyslop, Fiona (Linlithgow) (SNP)
Johnson, Daniel (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab)
Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP)
Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Leonard, Richard (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Lochhead, Richard (Moray) (SNP)
MacDonald, Gordon (Edinburgh Pentlands) (SNP)
MacGregor, Fulton (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP)
Mackay, Gillian (Central Scotland) (Green)
Mackay, Rona (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP)
Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP)
Maguire, Ruth (Cunninghame South) (SNP)
Marra, Michael (North East Scotland) (Lab)
Martin, Gillian (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP)
Mason, John (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
McAllan, Màiri (Clydesdale) (SNP)
McArthur, Liam (Orkney Islands) (LD)
McKelvie, Christina (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (SNP)
McLennan, Paul (East Lothian) (SNP)
McMillan, Stuart (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP)
McNair, Marie (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP)
McNeill, Pauline (Glasgow) (Lab)
Minto, Jenni (Argyll and Bute) (SNP)
Mochan, Carol (South Scotland) (Lab)
Nicoll, Audrey (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP)
O’Kane, Paul (West Scotland) (Lab)
Regan, Ash (Edinburgh Eastern) (SNP)
Rennie, Willie (North East Fife) (LD)
Robertson, Angus (Edinburgh Central) (SNP)
Robison, Shona (Dundee City East) (SNP)
Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Slater, Lorna (Lothian) (Green)
Smyth, Colin (South Scotland) (Lab)
Somerville, Shirley-Anne (Dunfermline) (SNP)
Stevenson, Collette (East Kilbride) (SNP)
Stewart, Kaukab (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)
Sweeney, Paul (Glasgow) (Lab)
Thomson, Michelle (Falkirk East) (SNP)
Torrance, David (Kirkcaldy) (SNP)
Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP)
Villalba, Mercedes (North East Scotland) (Lab)
Whitfield, Martin (South Scotland) (Lab)
Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD)

Against

Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Con)
Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (Con)
Burnett, Alexander (Aberdeenshire West) (Con)
Cameron, Donald (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Carlaw, Jackson (Eastwood) (Con)
Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con)
Dowey, Sharon (South Scotland) (Con)
Findlay, Russell (West Scotland) (Con)
Fraser, Murdo (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Gallacher, Meghan (Central Scotland) (Con)
Golden, Maurice (North East Scotland) (Con)
Gosal, Pam (West Scotland) (Con)
Greene, Jamie (West Scotland) (Con)
Gulhane, Sandesh (Glasgow) (Con)
Hamilton, Rachael (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con)
Halcro Johnston, Jamie (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Kerr, Liam (North East Scotland) (Con)
Kerr, Stephen (Central Scotland) (Con)
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
McCall, Roz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Ross, Douglas (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Simpson, Graham (Central Scotland) (Con)
Smith, Liz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Stewart, Alexander (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Webber, Sue (Lothian) (Con)
Whittle, Brian (South Scotland) (Con)

The result of the division on motion S6M-09722, in the name of Angela Constance, on the Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill, is: For 83, Against 27, Abstentions 0.

Motion agreed to,

That the Parliament agrees with the recommendation in the Scottish Government’s supplementary legislative consent memorandum to withhold consent for the UK Government’s Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill.

The next question is, that motion S6M-09725, in the name of Shirley-Anne Somerville, on the Charities (Regulation and Administration) (Scotland) Bill, be agreed to. Members should cast their votes now.

The vote is now closed.

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app is still not working. I would have voted yes.

Thank you, Mr Rennie. We will ensure that that is recorded.

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app could not connect. I would have voted yes.

Thank you, Mr Torrance. We will ensure that that is recorded.

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My system is still not letting me in. I would have voted yes.

Thank you, Ms Stewart. We will ensure that that is recorded.

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I did vote, but the system now says that my vote did not register.

I can confirm that your vote has not been registered, Ms Grant.

I would have voted yes.

Thank you. We will ensure that that is recorded.

For

Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP)
Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)
Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)
Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP)
Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire South) (SNP)
Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab)
Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)
Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Con)
Boyack, Sarah (Lothian) (Lab)
Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (Con)
Brown, Keith (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP)
Brown, Siobhian (Ayr) (SNP)
Burnett, Alexander (Aberdeenshire West) (Con)
Callaghan, Stephanie (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP)
Cameron, Donald (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Carlaw, Jackson (Eastwood) (Con)
Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con)
Chapman, Maggie (North East Scotland) (Green)
Coffey, Willie (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP)
Cole-Hamilton, Alex (Edinburgh Western) (LD)
Constance, Angela (Almond Valley) (SNP)
Dey, Graeme (Angus South) (SNP)
Don, Natalie (Renfrewshire North and West) (SNP)
Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Dornan, James (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP)
Dowey, Sharon (South Scotland) (Con)
Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab)
Fairlie, Jim (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP)
Findlay, Russell (West Scotland) (Con)
FitzPatrick, Joe (Dundee City West) (SNP)
Forbes, Kate (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP)
Fraser, Murdo (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Gallacher, Meghan (Central Scotland) (Con)
Gibson, Kenneth (Cunninghame North) (SNP)
Gilruth, Jenny (Mid Fife and Glenrothes) (SNP)
Golden, Maurice (North East Scotland) (Con)
Gosal, Pam (West Scotland) (Con)
Gougeon, Mairi (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP)
Grahame, Christine (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP)
Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Gray, Neil (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP)
Greene, Jamie (West Scotland) (Con)
Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green)
Gulhane, Sandesh (Glasgow) (Con)
Hamilton, Rachael (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con)
Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP)
Harvie, Patrick (Glasgow) (Green)
Haughey, Clare (Rutherglen) (SNP)
Hepburn, Jamie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP)
Hyslop, Fiona (Linlithgow) (SNP)
Johnson, Daniel (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab)
Halcro Johnston, Jamie (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Kerr, Liam (North East Scotland) (Con)
Kerr, Stephen (Central Scotland) (Con)
Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP)
Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Leonard, Richard (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Lochhead, Richard (Moray) (SNP)
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
MacDonald, Gordon (Edinburgh Pentlands) (SNP)
MacGregor, Fulton (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP)
Mackay, Gillian (Central Scotland) (Green)
Mackay, Rona (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP)
Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP)
Maguire, Ruth (Cunninghame South) (SNP)
Marra, Michael (North East Scotland) (Lab)
Martin, Gillian (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP)
Mason, John (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
McAllan, Màiri (Clydesdale) (SNP)
McArthur, Liam (Orkney Islands) (LD)
McCall, Roz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
McKee, Ivan (Glasgow Provan) (SNP)
McKelvie, Christina (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (SNP)
McLennan, Paul (East Lothian) (SNP)
McMillan, Stuart (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP)
McNair, Marie (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP)
McNeill, Pauline (Glasgow) (Lab)
Minto, Jenni (Argyll and Bute) (SNP)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Nicoll, Audrey (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP)
O’Kane, Paul (West Scotland) (Lab)
Regan, Ash (Edinburgh Eastern) (SNP)
Rennie, Willie (North East Fife) (LD)
Robertson, Angus (Edinburgh Central) (SNP)
Robison, Shona (Dundee City East) (SNP)
Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
Ross, Douglas (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Simpson, Graham (Central Scotland) (Con)
Slater, Lorna (Lothian) (Green)
Smith, Liz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Smyth, Colin (South Scotland) (Lab)
Somerville, Shirley-Anne (Dunfermline) (SNP)
Stevenson, Collette (East Kilbride) (SNP)
Stewart, Alexander (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Stewart, Kaukab (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)
Sweeney, Paul (Glasgow) (Lab)
Thomson, Michelle (Falkirk East) (SNP)
Torrance, David (Kirkcaldy) (SNP)
Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP)
Villalba, Mercedes (North East Scotland) (Lab)
Webber, Sue (Lothian) (Con)
Whitfield, Martin (South Scotland) (Lab)
Whittle, Brian (South Scotland) (Con)
Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD)

The result of the division on motion S6M-09725, in the name of Shirley-Anne Somerville, on the Charities (Regulation and Administration) (Scotland) Bill, is: For 108, Against 0, Abstentions 0.

Motion agreed to,

That the Parliament agrees that the Charities (Regulation and Administration) (Scotland) Bill be passed.

[Applause.]

The next question, is that motion S6M-09723, in the name of Tom Arthur, on the Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill, which is UK legislation, be agreed to.

Motion agreed to,

That the Parliament agrees that the relevant provisions of the Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill, introduced in the House of Commons on 22 September 2022, so far as these matters fall within the legislative competence of the Scottish Parliament or alter the executive competence of the Scottish Ministers, should be considered by the UK Parliament.

The next question is, that motion S6M-09727, in the name of Martin Whitfield, on the appointment of the Scottish Information Commissioner, be agreed to.

Motion agreed to,

That the Parliament nominates David Hamilton to His Majesty The King for appointment as the Scottish Information Commissioner under section 42 of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002.

[Applause.]

If no one objects, I propose to ask a single question on 10 Parliamentary Bureau motions.

The final question is, that motions S6M-09720, on committee duration; S6M-09756 and S6M-09757, on approval of a Scottish statutory instrument; S6M-09758 to S6M-09760, on designation of a lead committee; S6M-09787 on approval of an SSI; S6M-09761 and S6M-09790 on committee membership; and S6M-09791 on committee substitutes, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, be agreed to.

Motions agreed to,

That the Parliament agrees, further to motion S6M-00393, that the duration of the COVID-19 Recovery Committee be revised from “For the whole session of the Parliament” to “Until Friday 14 July 2023”.

That the Parliament agrees that the Deposit and Return Scheme for Scotland Amendment Regulations 2023 [draft] be approved.

That the Parliament agrees that the First-tier Tribunal for Scotland Local Taxation Chamber and Upper Tribunal for Scotland (Composition and Procedure) (Miscellaneous Amendment) Regulations 2023 [draft] be approved.

That the Parliament agrees that the Criminal Justice Committee be designated as the lead committee in consideration of the legislative consent memorandum on the Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill.

That the Parliament agrees that the Social Justice and Social Security Committee be designated as the lead committee in consideration of the Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill.

That the Parliament agrees that the Criminal Justice Committee be designated as the lead committee in consideration of the legislative consent memorandum on the Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill.

That the Parliament agrees that the Agriculture and Horticulture Development Board (Amendment) Order 2023 [draft] be approved.

That the Parliament agrees that the following changes to committee membership will apply from close of business on Thursday 29 June 2023—

Kate Forbes be appointed to replace Ben Macpherson as a member of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee;

Keith Brown be appointed to replace Alasdair Allan as a member of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee;

John Swinney be appointed to replace Collette Stevenson as a member of the Criminal Justice Committee;

Kevin Stewart be appointed to replace Fiona Hyslop as a member of the Economy and Fair Work Committee;

Ash Regan be appointed to replace Michelle Thomson as a member of the Economy and Fair Work Committee;

Michelle Thomson be appointed to replace Bob Doris as a member of the Education, Children and Young People Committee;

Ben Macpherson be appointed to replace Fiona Hyslop as a member of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee;

Kate Forbes be appointed to replace Christine Grahame as a member of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee;

Bob Doris be appointed to replace Gordon MacDonald as a member of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee;

Christine Grahame be appointed to replace Emma Harper as a member of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee; and

Ivan McKee be appointed to replace Bob Doris as a member of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee.

That the Parliament agrees that the following changes to committee membership will apply from close of business on Thursday 29 June 2023—

Jamie Halcro Johnston be appointed to replace Douglas Lumsden as a member of the Finance and Public Administration Committee;

Meghan Gallacher be appointed to replace Rachael Hamilton as a member of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee;

Roz McCall be appointed to replace Miles Briggs as a member of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee;

Pam Gosal be appointed to replace Annie Wells as a member of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee;

Maurice Golden be appointed to replace Alexander Stewart as a member of the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee;

Liam Kerr be appointed to replace Stephen Kerr as a member of the Education, Children and Young People Committee;

Sharon Dowey be appointed to replace Jamie Greene as a member of the Criminal Justice Committee;

Graham Simpson be appointed to replace Craig Hoy as a member of the Public Audit Committee;

Murdo Fraser be appointed to replace Jamie Halcro Johnston as a member of the Economy and Fair Work Committee;

Brian Whittle be appointed to replace Graham Simpson as a member of the Economy and Fair Work Committee;

Annie Wells be appointed to replace Alexander Stewart as a member of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee;

Stephen Kerr be appointed to replace Edward Mountain as a member of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee;

Alexander Stewart be appointed to replace Maurice Golden as a member of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee; and

Annie Wells be appointed to replace Pam Gosal as a member of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee.

That the Parliament agrees that the following changes to committee substitutes will apply from close of business on Thursday 29 June 2023—

Graham Simpson be appointed to replace Murdo Fraser as the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party substitute on the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee;

Murdo Fraser be appointed to replace Jamie Halcro Johnston as the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party substitute on the Finance and Public Administration Committee;

Alexander Stewart be appointed to replace Maurice Golden as the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party substitute on the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee;

Oliver Mundell be appointed to replace Sharon Dowey as the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party substitute on the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee;

Roz McCall be appointed to replace Meghan Gallacher as the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party substitute on the Education, Children and Young People Committee;

Jamie Halcro Johnston be appointed to replace Edward Mountain as the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party substitute on the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee;

Edward Mountain be appointed to replace Stephen Kerr as the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party substitute on the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee;

Craig Hoy be appointed to replace Roz McCall as the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party substitute on the Public Audit Committee; and

Pam Gosal be appointed to replace Graham Simpson as the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party substitute on the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee.

That concludes decision time.