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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 May 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Kenneth Gibson

If it is very brief. We are an hour over time already.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Kenneth Gibson

I have been too generous to members—that is the problem.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Kenneth Gibson

I am well aware of that, but the Government has to do the right thing. We all know that Opposition politicians will stand up and say, “There are X number fewer teachers than there were a few years ago,” but the way to defend the position is clearly by having improved outcomes because schools have the right mix of teachers, support staff, psychologists and everything else. The attainment challenge is about not just teachers but the whole structure in a school.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Rather than having a board, it might be easier to let local authorities do what they think is best for their areas with the resources that they have, but I will move on.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Surely they do that already.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Kenneth Gibson

I will let colleagues in soon, so I am not going to ask many more questions or wade through the whole report.

In response to paragraph 112, you said:

“we have prioritised funding for the Scottish National Investment Bank.”

However, I do not see how that statement can possibly bear scrutiny when there is a reduction of 28 per cent in its funding. That cannot be classed as prioritisation by any measure. I would have thought that that organisation, which is required to lever in private funding, could get a bigger bang for its buck. I fully appreciate the need to spend money on public services, but if you are not generating additional wealth, you will not be able to do that for long. That means, in effect, that, next year, we will be in the same, or a worse, position. How has the Scottish Government prioritised the Scottish National Investment Bank if the funding is falling so dramatically?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Kenneth Gibson

You have also talked about how important it would be for the spring budget to reverse some of the reductions in capital allocation. Although many commentators managed to avoid mentioning the reduction in the Scottish Government’s capital allocation—surprise, surprise—the percentage reduction in the housing budget has raised many eyebrows at a time when there is serious pressure on housing demand in Scotland.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Kenneth Gibson

I think that more colleagues will wish to ask about this area, but I will first touch on one aspect, which is covered in paragraph 102 of our report, regarding

“how the Scottish Government has, as intended, prioritised its spending towards supporting the delivery of a fair green and growing economy.”

I was struck by what your response says. At the bottom of page 9, it states:

“The Scottish Budget also commits to exploring future multi-annual funding for employability services, in recognition of the benefits of greater certainty for those planning services and the people accessing support.”

We have called for multiyear funding settlements; I am well aware that the UK Government does not give multiyear settlements. In fact, we had an autumn statement in November, and we will now have a spring statement in March, so I realise that it is not easy to pin those things down, but that area of the Scottish budget almost jumps out as being the one with long-term funding. Why is that not the case in other areas? People in local government have been calling for long-term multiyear funding, which would be more efficient and would allow councils to plan better.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you for that helpful opening statement. I realise that you have to operate within certain timescales. However, given the continued reference, not only in our report but this morning, to the UK Government’s spring statement being on 6 March, it seems to me that it would have been more helpful if our budget had been announced after that date. That would have given the Scottish Government greater opportunity to reflect on what the UK Government was doing. Of course, given that we had already scheduled our budget announcement, it would have been more helpful if the UK Government had announced its spring budget before our stage 3 process.