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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
You touched on reform. Your submission said:
“Reform must deliver services differently, supporting the Scottish Government workforce to manage this change, rather than simply doing more with less.”
Obviously, doing more with less probably is one of the things that the Scottish Government is keen on. Given the financial pressures, that is understandable. People want better services, but they do not necessarily want to pay for them to the extent that might be required under the current system. Will you talk a wee bit about the reform that you envisage?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
You said that the FSDP
“seems more like a disparate set of aspirations than a coherent plan”.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
I appreciate that the Fraser of Allander Institute has been dogged in saying that there should be one document. Mr Robinson, what do you feel about the issues that we have talked about, such as productivity?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
I am sorry to interrupt you, but I understand that the public sector workforce numbers are some 47,000 higher than they were. The approach is not about reversing that increase but reducing the workforce by 12,000 over four years, which would still be a significant increase in the workforce.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Sticking to the issue of workforce, you have pointed out that 16.8 per cent of people aged 16 to 64 who are inactive reported that they wanted to work. You touched on the no one left behind programme, but you went on to say:
“It is unclear currently to what extent this will result in tangible or significant differences in labour market participation compared to the rest of the UK and over what timescale.”
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Mr Robinson, you have said:
“The Scottish Government’s own publication on the national strategy for economic transformation notes that in 2019, while Scotland ranked seventh among OECD countries for higher education research and development, it ranked only 24th for business enterprise research and development.”
Has there been any advance on that since 2019?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
We all love numbers—always think in numbers.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Okay. Mr Robinson, you have said:
“There are some clear consistencies between the MTFS, the fiscal sustainability development plan and public sector reform strategy. In particular, the MTFS and FSDP both focus around the three pillars of prioritising spending, economic growth and tax strategy.”
However, later in your paper you go on to say:
“To ensure effective public administration, we need to avoid duplication and ensure consistency in measurement and process.”
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Thank you very much for that. I will now open up the session to colleagues around the table. First, we will hear from Michael Marra, to be followed by Liz Smith.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Thanks very much.
I have to say, John, that I think that public health has advanced phenomenally in the past century or so. Life expectancy in 1900 was 47 in Scotland, and in that year in the city that you represent 14 people died of plague. We have since managed to eliminate scarlet fever and diphtheria; smallpox has been eradicated worldwide; polio has been eradicated; penicillin has been discovered; we have insulin; cancer deaths and heart attacks are a lot lower; and diets are better than ever. It is not just about things such as child mortality.