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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Well, hold on—not necessarily. Adult disability payments are projected to go up from £3.6 billion to £5.4 billion and the number of claimants to go up from 529,000 to 703,000, which is a colossal increase of 174,000 in four years, even though some people who are on the benefit will pass away. However, Scottish Enterprise pointed out that half of the people who are on the adult disability payment are already in employment, which suggests that enhanced support for employers who recruit disabled people might be a better approach, and it would reduce the impact.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Thanks very much. I look forward to getting a reply to the letter that I sent two weeks ago about why I never got a notification of that meeting.
11:45Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
I first raised the issue of tapering at the SNP conference in 1986, so it is a long-running saga.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Last year.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
I have loads of questions, but I will not ask all of them—the committee would lynch me if I did. It is a bit two-dimensional to say, “It’s about expenditure,” or, “It’s about eligibility.” If we have a growing, thriving, inclusive economy, people will come out of poverty. It is about treating not just the symptoms of poverty but the disease itself. I have always believed in independence not just for Scotland but for individuals.
We have not really touched on how you decide whether to spend on one benefit versus another. For example, how does the Scottish Government decide to continue to cover the costs of the bedroom tax—frankly, most people who receive the benefit think that the tax was abolished years ago—versus its expenditure on free school meals? How do you decide which one you should go for? Also, how much will the mitigation of the two-child benefit cap be per child per week?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Absolutely.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
You seem to be prepared to answer it, from what I can see.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
I must say that you referenced old technology in your submission, but not new technology.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
When you say “considerable impact”, do you mean a positive or negative impact?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Frankly, there is a fear of the unknown in many organisations. They think, “We’re going to have to adopt this, but do we have to do it this week?” or, “What’s the implication going to be for the workforce and the whole structure.” I led the first debate on AI in the Parliament, way back in 2018, and the information that we had then about the impact on employment was completely different from the information now. At that time, the sectors that we were told would be most adversely affected and those that would be boosted were completely different from the scenario now. That issue is still being grappled with.
I will move on to capital investments in a couple of minutes, because a few people mentioned that in their written submissions, but a couple of folk want to come in at the moment.