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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 29 May 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Jim Fairlie

Mary, do you want to add anything?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Jim Fairlie

So it would be from Scottish resource.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Jim Fairlie

Okay—that answers that question. That led on well—you guys are good.

I have a couple of other wee bits and pieces to raise—please bear with me. Alex Rowley asked a question about the budget for getting people into the service. Is it a financial factor that is causing the problem? Is it to do with having enough people in place or is the issue that people are not available to do the job, that they do not want to do it or that they have moved away from it? There has been a huge churn in people’s lives. People have decided that they do not want a life working in hospitality any more, for example. Is the same thing happening in the NHS? Is one of the resourcing problems that you have to do with staff, rather than it being a financial problem?

That question is for both of you—please crack on.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Jim Fairlie

Okay.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Jim Fairlie

I am sorry to go off at a tangent, but John Mason said something about the value of having a stockpile. There is a purely financial value, but there is also a value from a qualitative point of view in being able to deliver the system at the time at which it is needed. Do you see what I mean?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Jim Fairlie

Yes, or to have 10 suppliers coming in with different methods of production and what have you. If some of them dropped off, you would lose that critical mass when you needed it most.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Jim Fairlie

That local supply chain is now up and running, and there is huge value for us as a country in ensuring that we keep it functioning.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Jim Fairlie

We are paying someone here in Scotland.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Jim Fairlie

I really do not envy you guys the job that you do in trying to juggle all of that while not knowing what is coming down the road.

Dr Phin, I want to ask about recovery from long Covid, which we talked about immediately before you came in. Is there a budget to deal with research and treatment? Every one of us has constituents coming to us who are suffering from long Covid, and the message that we are getting is that not enough is being done and there is not enough help. Is there enough budget and is there research into how to deal with long Covid?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Jim Fairlie

You clearly read my mind, Dr Phin, because that is exactly what I was going to ask about.

One problem with being the last speaker is that many wee questions have sprung up over the course of the meeting. I will try to rattle through them quickly. The witnesses might have answered some of them.

The first thing that came into my head was the cost of funding the response to the pandemic in the first place. I have never done budget scrutiny before. Where did that budget come from? Carolyn Low said that an unending amount of money was available to deal with the pandemic. We now need to ensure that we get vaccine uptake and deal with long Covid—I will come on to that in a minute—and there are a load of other costs. Are they being absorbed by the original NHS budget or is there extra funding over and above that to deal with the extra challenges that are coming out of Covid, despite the fact that we might not be out of it?