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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 June 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Jeremy Balfour

It is a very complex issue. I am not sure that I totally followed your answer, but that is more to do with my understanding. Would it be possible to write back to the committee, putting your response in more layman’s language? If we are seeking to promote benefits that are now devolved to a new agency, I would find it helpful to know who is going to pay for that. I appreciate that the subject is very complex, and that it is not easy to give a one-word answer, but some kind of letter back to the committee would be helpful.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Jeremy Balfour

I will follow up a point made by Pam Duncan-Glancy on the divergence in policy. Under the Social Security (Scotland) Act 2018, we diverge in policy on terminal illness. Was there a problem with the DWP at that point? Did it react negatively to that? Is it aware of that divergence? Is there a way we can build a relationship around policy difference? Does it seem to be working okay at the moment?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Jeremy Balfour

Good morning, cabinet secretary, and welcome back to the committee.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Jeremy Balfour

Either last week or the week before, we heard evidence about take-up. As you will be aware from your work on the committee, a lot of benefits are still not being taken up, but it was suggested that, if we were to run a campaign in Scotland to encourage more people to apply for attendance allowance or any of those benefits, it might have a financial cost to the Scottish Government. If more people were to take up benefits, would that have to be funded by the Scottish Government or would it continue to come out of the Westminster budget? Have you had discussions on that? Do you have any clarity in your thinking with regard to running take-up campaigns and the costs that might come from them?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Jeremy Balfour

It was on terminal illness. Our definitions north and south of the border are different. That was obviously a change in policy, so I wonder how the DWP and the UK Government reacted to that change.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 21 September 2021

Jeremy Balfour

I will start with Jen Ang, if that is okay. You will have heard the previous witnesses being asked this question. Obviously, and as you have described, we already have lots of laws in Scotland. Many are to protect people from torture, rape and other forms of abuse. The previous witnesses said that there are still gaps in the law that legislation such as we are discussing could fill. I do not want to put you on the spot, but can you outline some of the gaps and how the legislation would fill them?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 21 September 2021

Jeremy Balfour

Both of your answers are very helpful. There are obviously different religious teachings in different faith groups, so it is not a standard thing. However, there will also be those in different faiths, whether they be of the Christian faith, Judaism or the Muslim faith, who give different teachings. Some would argue that celibacy, whether heterosexual or homosexual, is a lifestyle that should be followed outwith marriage. I have had conversations with people about these issues—not, I hope, in a judgmental way. I have listened to them and have sought to pray and advise them. Would you see that as a legitimate thing for a minister or counsellor to do without necessarily trying to change someone’s identity? I am talking about giving them pastoral support and prayer as they work through the issues as individuals.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 21 September 2021

Jeremy Balfour

That is very helpful. I have no other questions, convener.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 21 September 2021

Jeremy Balfour

Thank you both for those helpful answers. The first panel pursued a line about people’s identity being slightly different from their practice. I may identify myself in lots of ways, whether that is to do with disability, sexuality and so on—we identify ourselves in different ways. However, my practice will not necessarily be the same. Different identities will practise differently. Do you see a difference there? People from some faith backgrounds might see celibacy as the right way forward outwith marriage—that teaching comes from Judaism and some Christian faiths. In pursuing this, would a counsellor, minister or rabbi differentiate between a person’s identity, which they are not necessarily looking to change, and the practice of how they live their life? Can that be looked at, or would it be too difficult a definition?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 21 September 2021

Jeremy Balfour

There has been a big movement in faith communities on child protection and how issues are reported.

My final question goes beyond religion and relates to therapists in general. How would you advise a therapist if someone comes to them and says that they want to change their identity? That might not necessarily be about religion—they might just purely want to have that discussion. Can that discussion take place or, as a therapist, if the law came in, would you have to say that you cannot even discuss that change? How do we make sure that that is done with the consent of the individual and without their in any way being manipulated?