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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 July 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Kinship Care

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Jeremy Balfour

I want to pursue with Alison Gillies her role in getting people the benefits that they are entitled to. Are there passported benefits that people get if they fall under one definition of kinship care but not another? Is the situation the same across the United Kingdom? That might go beyond your experience; if it does, stop me. However, is the situation in Scotland the same as that in England and Wales?

Obviously, Social Security Scotland has just got up and running and is still fairly new. From your early experience of the new agency, is it following the same approach to definitions, or does it see kinship carers as one group?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Kinship Care

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Jeremy Balfour

That is helpful. If no other witness wants to add anything, I will move on. My next questions are, first, for COSLA.

The independent care review, which refers to the Promise, was commissioned back in 2017 and reported in 2020. What progress has been made on the reforms that were outlined? What are the major things that we need to pick up on and take forward more quickly?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Kinship Care

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Jeremy Balfour

I am referring to kinship care.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Kinship Care

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Jeremy Balfour

What further support would make the biggest impact for kinship carers throughout Scotland? If there was one thing that you could do tomorrow, what would it be?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Kinship Care

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Jeremy Balfour

That has been helpful. If you want to tell the committee anything else about that, please do so in writing, as the deputy convener said. In particular, if you have any comments on passported benefits that people might or might not get depending on the definition, perhaps you could reflect that in a written statement. However, that has been very helpful, so thanks very much.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Kinship Care

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Jeremy Balfour

Good morning. I thank all the witnesses for attending the meeting. I have a couple of questions that are aimed at CELCIS to start us off. I was interested to read in your submission and in other submissions that there seems to be some confusion around the words “formal” and “informal” with regard to kinship care; the categories do not seem to be neatly defined. Can you help me out by saying whether that is simply the way that it will always be, or is there work that we can do to develop better definitions? Does that confusion make a difference in practice?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Kinship Care

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Jeremy Balfour

Does anyone else wish to comment?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Kinship Care

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Jeremy Balfour

I want to come back to the point about a national agreed allowance. We are a country of approximately 5 million and we know each other quite well. Is it more sensible to pay such an allowance centrally rather than leaving local authorities with the discretion of how much they pay and what extra should be paid? Should the Scottish Government say that, if someone gives kinship care, this is what they will get, whether they live in Inverness or Dumfries or wherever?

Perhaps Kirsty Doull could go first, then Vivien Thomson, and if anyone else wants to jump in, that would be helpful.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Kinship Care

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Jeremy Balfour

This is a complex question, so a yes/no answer with a follow-up in writing might be helpful. We have talked a lot about having a nationally agreed allowance and how things are different across local authorities in Scotland compared with other parts of the United Kingdom. From your perspective—perhaps Alison Gillies and Gill Westwood could respond—would it be easier if the allowance was administrated across the whole of Scotland, such that everybody got the same amount of money, regardless of where in Scotland they lived?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Refugees and Asylum Seekers

Meeting date: 10 February 2022

Jeremy Balfour

I have two quick questions. It might be more helpful for you to get back to us in writing on the first one, because it will be quite a long answer. We have talked about the Afghan resettlement scheme. Looking back a little, my understanding is that the work that was done by the Scottish and UK Governments, local authorities and the third sector around the Syrian refugees who came here was very successful. What lessons have we learned from that and how can we implement them?

My second question seeks clarification. There seems to be some confusion about whether children who are refugees or asylum seekers are allowed to have bus passes under the new scheme. Does anyone have any information on whether the free bus passes are available to children in Scotland with refugee or asylum seeker status?