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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 30 June 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Good morning, Robert and Derek, and thank you for coming in.

I have a number of questions, some of which are about trying to get some information ahead of our meeting with ADL tomorrow. You have suggested that, on average, there is a difference of around £100,000 across all bus models. Is that figure widening?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Scottish Government schemes—and probably schemes further afield—such as the Scottish ultra-low emission bus scheme and the Scottish zero emission bus challenge fund are all open to foreign buses; they are not excluded.

You mentioned the cost of furlough. What estimates do you have for that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Over the three sites?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Around 900 for the year. You are not sure of the overall capacity across all three sites, but you know that Scarborough could produce—

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Where contracts are being won—you mentioned Blackpool, where, I think that there have been a number of new buses, recently, and a hundred, overall, over the period—why are buyers choosing Alexander Dennis, at additional cost, and not going for the cheaper Chinese options?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Okay. Thanks.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

We talk a lot about councils getting involved, but one area of interest is where the Government can be involved. A lot of the time, Government contracts are delivered centrally—for example, for insulation programmes. Will there be a move, or is there an opportunity, for the Government to decentralise some of those contracts? They are often given to large companies in the central belt and are then delivered in rural areas by secondary contractors. Is there an opportunity to have more flexibility in how those contracts are delivered in order to allow more local engagement and delivery?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Essentially, ADL is limiting itself to 400 buses a year fewer than it had hoped to do over three sites.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Do you have any estimate on the cost for upgrading the sites in Scotland?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

If they are choosing to buy from Alexander Dennis and pay an additional £100,000 per bus, that is £10 million for those 100 buses. I know that we are using rough figures. There must be a reason why they are choosing to do that. Is it because they want to buy from a UK company or is it to do with quality? Those reasons are important when considering how to make the business sustainable so that there is choice in the future.