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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 May 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 27 April 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I have a quick question for you, Joanne. You talked about the number of cases that have been brought under the protection of workers legislation. I think that you said that it was 300. What were the outcomes of those cases? How many convictions were there? Did they progress enough?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 27 April 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

That is me duly warned, convener.

Good morning to the panel. We have heard that there is no one size that fits all. I represent the Highlands and Islands, where every community is different. I have a fairly general question that I will direct to Martin Newman and then David Lonsdale. What does a successful town centre look like now? What examples are there from across the United Kingdom? Also, what will successful town centres look like in, say, 20 years? Are there particular UK or Scottish examples that are on the path to making the necessary improvements?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 27 April 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Online shopping is seen as a danger to many businesses but there is potential for it to be a supporting factor. If you order something from a well-known online shop, it could be there the next day, and we can now order some things and receive them from a local store within an hour or two through certain delivery methods. Is that an opportunity?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 27 April 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

We have heard a lot about the shift to online retail. At the beginning of the pandemic, a lot of small businesses that were not online had to get online quickly and offer delivery at timescales of three to five working days, and so on. We have seen an increase in app-based delivery for small superstores and a promise that your shopping can be with you in 40 minutes. Will smaller retailers on the high street use that as an opportunity to boost and support their online sales, which might keep them on the high street?

On a wider point, we also talk about empty stores. Do our high streets have too many shops or retail spaces? Will we need to see a reduction and a focus on certain shopping streets in communities? Can you see that happening?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 20 April 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Thank you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 20 April 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

The idea of repopulating our town and city centres has come through a number of times in our evidence.

David Grove, how do you, as someone who is involved in town centre development for a council, allow change, transition and development to happen, with new systems and infrastructures put in place, without that impacting on businesses that are already there?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 20 April 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I have a question for Gemma Cruickshank and Mark Darragh. Because of the nature of their areas—obviously, Elgin is in my Highlands and Islands region—they rely heavily on tourism, or certainly it is important. We have talked about local taxation. What would be the impact on local businesses if a tourism tax was implemented in their areas? In particular, if Moray Council went ahead with a tourism tax but Aberdeenshire Council and Highland Council did not, would that put Elgin at an advantage or disadvantage?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 20 April 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

One of the last visits that I did before the pandemic was to Linlithgow palace, and it was excellent.

There has been a huge amount of pressure. You mentioned the fact that people have not been coming to visit some of the tourism sites. There are also the general pressures on businesses. Where do you think that your town centre is at the moment as regards sustainability? How would you rate the general health of businesses? I do not want to sound negative, but what concerns do you have in that regard?

Once we have heard from Mark, I will put the same questions to Gemma.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 20 April 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Gemma, how is the health of businesses in Elgin? Do you have any concerns and are you doing anything to deal with those issues?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 20 April 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Good morning. I want to go to Phil Prentice first and then to David Grove. We have talked a lot about the changes that will happen. Obviously, there will need to be a lot of infrastructure changes. During the pandemic, we have seen issues around people and places, and potential congestion charging has been suggested. There will need to be a lot of development in our town centres, and all of that will have an impact on them and the ability of businesses to keep operating. I know that, when we had the tram debates in Edinburgh, a lot of businesses had real concerns about the on-going work causing some to go out of business.

Given that a lot of businesses are already struggling through the Covid pandemic, how can we ensure that, as we transition to a new future for our town centres, that is done in a way in which a lot of existing businesses are not lost simply because of the disruption? Is there a concern that things might get worse before they get better for some of our town centres?