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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 April 2024
Jamie Halcro Johnston
You will appreciate the difficulty. We are looking at the landscape and a number of areas of the work of commissioners—how they overlap, their governance, accountability and the financial costs—but we cannot seem to pin that down to what they achieve for the people they are meant to be achieving things for.
There are specific areas as well—for example, as I represent the Highlands and Islands, I want to see whether there are any issues around rurality and its impacts, and which groups are missed out. Do you accept that our ability to consider issues is limited if we lack detailed information on outcomes?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Jamie Halcro Johnston
Okay, so it is a relatively new decision. You have the figures for the updated costs from Police Scotland. You say that you are discussing those with Police Scotland. Is there concern that the figures that it has presented as evidence could increase even more?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Jamie Halcro Johnston
Thank you.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Jamie Halcro Johnston
Did you have no idea at any point that the £5 million potential cost would be presented? Did that come as a complete surprise to you?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Jamie Halcro Johnston
It just seems odd to me that you were aware that costs were being revised; you did not know what those costs would be; ultimately, they came in at three and a bit times what they had been; but at no point do you seem to have been concerned about how that might impact on the progress of the bill or on the committee’s ability to scrutinise it.
The costs will go up hugely, for a key player. Do you think that you have done enough in relation to keeping in touch with, liaising with or requesting that information from Police Scotland?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Jamie Halcro Johnston
As I said, you were not aware of it. Will that change how you may look at such things in the future?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Jamie Halcro Johnston
When did it say that?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Jamie Halcro Johnston
When was that? I am trying to get an idea of the timeline and of how long it has taken to get to this position.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Jamie Halcro Johnston
Will you remind me when that was?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Jamie Halcro Johnston
I will not repeat all the points that have been made regarding framework bills, but I certainly support colleagues on those.
I want to ask about the timelines. You suggested that Police Scotland was not aware of the full financial implications of the bill until the bill was presented. You suggested that, despite working closely with Police Scotland, its official position did not change until the evidence was presented to us, as far as you can see. In that interim period—since June last year, when the bill was introduced—what concerns has Police Scotland raised with you about the costs, and what figures did it put on any potential increase to costs?