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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 February 2026
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Jamie Halcro Johnston

So you would have wanted officials to provide that information?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Jamie Halcro Johnston

That intervention from George Adam was very helpful. I would perhaps be less charitable to the cabinet secretary, because he should have been asking for and having a meeting anyway. I recognise his points, but I might come back to the idea that an organisation in crisis needs to be met and have those issues raised.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I appreciate that. I would just make the point that, if the issue is determined by what is significant or important, your definition of what was significant was not that the cabinet secretary had been invited to meet the board on three previous occasions.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Both Lucy Casot and Steven Roth talked about the regional aspects and the importance of those. I ask you both to elaborate a little on that.

I am from Orkney—Steven, you mentioned Orkney. There are some absolutely important and vital museums there; I will not name them all, but I will highlight a few. There is Stromness museum, where you can visit and see my great-great-uncle’s Scotland rugby cap from the late 19th century. You can go to the Orkney wireless museum or the Tankerness museum. The museums are an important part of our tourism trade. Some are supported by local government and some are private. Can you tell us a bit about the health of the sector outwith the central belt?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Jamie Halcro Johnston

There have been some positive examples. Again, I am not looking for free tickets here, but I recently visited the new museum at Lyness—

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I will briefly set out the context to the question that I am going to ask.

When you appeared before the committee on Thursday 6 November, cabinet secretary, you made it very clear in response to Mr Kerr’s questions that you had not attended a board meeting. You stated:

“I have not been invited to attend a board meeting.”

I asked you the same question later on, and you said:

“Not only was I not invited … more importantly, I ensured that the appropriate officials did attend the board meetings.”

You then said:

“I will answer it again. I have not been invited to a board meeting, but the board meetings have been attended by the appropriate officials”.—[Official Report, Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee, 6 November 2025; c 3, 15.]

Two days later, on 8 November, The Herald covered the story of an invite, which it had received leaked emails about, in which you had been invited to a board meeting. In your letter to us on 26 November, you said that there had been requests from Dr Hall. Those requests were made to officials during a meeting on 24 July and then subsequently by email on 12 and 29 August.

On 11 November, in Parliament, there was an urgent question from Stephen Kerr, in response to which you clarified the situation. Eventually, on 26 November, you wrote to the committee outlining the reasons for your responses, as I just highlighted. When were you first made aware that there had been invitations to attend board meetings?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I appreciate your candour on that. I was going to ask why it took the cabinet secretary so long to make clear that there was this issue but, if I could just go back to it, can I confirm that you were aware at that meeting on 6 November that there had been invitations?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Can I just clarify something? Who were Dr Hall’s emails of 12 and 29 August sent to?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Jamie Halcro Johnston

They were sent to you?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Jamie Halcro Johnston

So, an invitation that was sent to you—sorry, I want to get this right—as director for culture and external affairs at the Scottish Government, inviting the cabinet secretary to attend a board meeting with an organisation that he has responsibility for, is not a formal invitation, as far as the Government sees it, to the cabinet secretary to attend?