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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 August 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Okay. Again, following Daniel Johnson’s question about when you might have considered consolidation, will you make a profit this year?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Okay, so it is a fair few years in which you have not made a profit. Have consolidation or looking at your assets been part of considerations at all?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Alright. I will start with my other questions. The union officials whom we had in yesterday suggested that, on average, the Chinese models, on which we were focusing, are about £100,000 cheaper per unit—I do not know whether that means per bus—than the models that you are producing. Do you recognise that figure?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Okay.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

However, if we or anybody went to them, they would of course say that it is commercially sensitive information, so they would not be able to provide it anyway.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I appreciate that. Without putting any figure on it, do you think that your competitors are producing more cheaply because of the whole load of things that we have talked about today, such as supply chains and labour? Do you imagine that that is why there is a gap in price?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

That is helpful. We all accept that China can mass produce a lot more efficiently than we can across several different sectors. However, you do win orders from UK bus companies. Witnesses mentioned that there was an order in Blackpool—is that right?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Ah, okay—apologies.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

You mentioned that the Scarborough capacity was about 1,200 buses a year, which essentially caps the potential of the company, as it cannot produce more than that—

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

It cannot produce more without recruitment or shift working. So, if the demand was there, you could increase production at that site. With production capped at 1,200, is that a sustainable model for you?