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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I would have thought that that would have been run past your office, if it was being considered—but okay.

I will move on, as I am conscious of time. There has been a lot of focus on winter fuel payments, the decision by the UK Labour Government to means test and the implications for Scotland in relation to what is now a devolved benefit. Has the Scottish Government made a request to defer the block grant adjustment?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I appreciate that. I accept that, if the block grant adjustment were to be deferred, the funding would still have to be paid back. That has been established. However, you are suggesting that you have not made a decision. Is there a timescale within which you have to make that request?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

That is helpful. You have not made a decision on it yet.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

So money has already been spent and staff have already been taken on, although maybe not to the—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

What were the estimated costs, and what has been spent already?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

It is not being spent on what it was intended for. To be clear, that is a political decision by the Government to spend it.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I appreciate that. When you talk about the winter fuel payments being made this year, are you talking about the reduced means-tested amount?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

So, not the full amount?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 1 October 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Good morning. My first question is for you, Jamie Robertson, because you talked about empowering councils. I think that everybody touched on that, but you mentioned it at the beginning of the meeting.

I recently met organisations and individuals in the tourism and hospitality sector in Fort William. You will appreciate that a large part of my casework over the past few months and years has related to the visitor levy. One of the many concerns that those organisations and individuals raised was how the levy would impact not only them and their businesses but other businesses, such as restaurants and cabs. It has a wider impact than just those who visit an area.

10:30  

In empowering communities, are we really only shifting the tax burden to those communities, people and businesses? Is that a pattern? What kind of impact is that likely to have on those economies? You could see a situation in which the levy benefits the national Government, because it can refocus money on its priorities, whatever those happen to be, and local authorities will be able to fill large gaps in income, but local communities and economies will suffer.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 1 October 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

The visitor levy is one part of this, but the wider issue is the principle of moving the tax burden away from Scottish Government provision, funded through general taxation, and on to communities, because it is local people and businesses that will be affected. Does that concern you?