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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 November 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I suppose that what I am looking for in answer to my questions is whether the model of reducing capacity, making fewer buses and being able to compete on certain contracts—when your competitors in other countries are perhaps mass-producing or producing at a far higher rate, and are therefore able to take some of those hits—is sustainable.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Okay.

Sorry about dotting around, but, as I said, I want to ask about a fair few things. You talked about the Scarborough site—I think that you said that the production capacity was around 1,200 buses. What is the current production capacity? Looking at the Larbert and Falkirk sites, what could they produce at full capacity, and what is currently being delivered?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Good morning. On that point, one reason for the bill is perhaps that there is a patchwork approach to community wealth building across the country. However, I am sure that you recognise that, even with the legislation, different areas will face different challenges. Where do you see those challenges existing geographically—for example, in relation to rural and island communities and economies of scale—even when the bill has been passed, if it is passed?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

If the bill is amended and passed, is the aim that there will be different levels of engagement rather than a level response but that the overall level of engagement across Scotland will increase?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Okay. Thanks.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

We talk a lot about councils getting involved, but one area of interest is where the Government can be involved. A lot of the time, Government contracts are delivered centrally—for example, for insulation programmes. Will there be a move, or is there an opportunity, for the Government to decentralise some of those contracts? They are often given to large companies in the central belt and are then delivered in rural areas by secondary contractors. Is there an opportunity to have more flexibility in how those contracts are delivered in order to allow more local engagement and delivery?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Essentially, ADL is limiting itself to 400 buses a year fewer than it had hoped to do over three sites.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Do you have any estimate on the cost for upgrading the sites in Scotland?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

If they are choosing to buy from Alexander Dennis and pay an additional £100,000 per bus, that is £10 million for those 100 buses. I know that we are using rough figures. There must be a reason why they are choosing to do that. Is it because they want to buy from a UK company or is it to do with quality? Those reasons are important when considering how to make the business sustainable so that there is choice in the future.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Good morning, Robert and Derek, and thank you for coming in.

I have a number of questions, some of which are about trying to get some information ahead of our meeting with ADL tomorrow. You have suggested that, on average, there is a difference of around £100,000 across all bus models. Is that figure widening?