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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 September 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Good morning, and welcome to the 22nd meeting in 2025 of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee. We have received apologies from Clare Adamson and Keith Brown. Alasdair Allan is joining us as a substitute.

Our first agenda item is to begin taking evidence as part of our pre-budget scrutiny of the 2026-27 Scottish budget. We are joined in the room by Alistair Mackie, chief executive of the Royal Scottish National Orchestra; Anne Lyden, director general of the National Galleries of Scotland; Alison Turnbull, director, external relations and partnerships, Historic Environment Scotland; and Tony Lankester, chief executive, Edinburgh Festival Fringe Society. Welcome to you all.

I will begin by asking a couple of questions before I bring in other members. As you will be aware, the committee is taking a consultative, communicative approach to its budget scrutiny during this session of Parliament. Our previous pre-budget reports have recommended that progress should be made towards mainstreaming culture across portfolios and developing cross-portfolio funding for culture. What progress has made towards that across the Scottish Government?

I will come to Alison Turnbull first and then we will work our way across the panel.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I am not sure about the situation down south, but have there been examples in which borrowing has been overstretched? Have on-going problems been caused by bodies in the sector overborrowing?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Thank you. Colleagues will probably press you a little further on that.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I am sure that a number of the issues that have been raised will be covered by colleagues. At this point, I will bring in Alasdair Allan.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I do not know whether you have any specific questions around the budget, Stephen. That is an issue that you can take further.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Very briefly, because we are obviously tight on time.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

We might get to that, but I am conscious of the time. I will bring in Alasdair Allan for a brief supplementary.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Stephen Kerr, I think that you wanted to come in, further to your questions to Anne Lyden about the fabric of the buildings and so on.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

It would be helpful if you could.

As there are no other questions, that concludes our session this morning. Thank you very much to the panel for coming. There was a slight overrun, but we learned some interesting information today.

Meeting closed at 10:39.  

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Thank you for that. You mentioned music teachers in schools. How do decisions that are being made elsewhere impact on your ability to meet those objectives and targets?