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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 January 2026
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Brian Whittle

Hopefully, I will ask the brief supplementary that Emma Harper wished to. We have been speaking about the link between ultra-processed food and environmental issues. How is the increasing predominance of ultra-processed food linked with increasing ill health?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Brian Whittle

I have to say that I agree with you that we should get processed meat out of the diet, for sure, but I am concerned that we talk about obesity and diabetes being linked to red meat when, actually, they are linked to higher intakes of sugar, refined carbohydrates and all that sort of nonsense. Surely that is what we need to be tackling.

We should be eating what we can produce, because, from a climate change perspective, we will end up importing most of our food, which must go against the climate change objectives.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Brian Whittle

I very much agree with you about changing the food environment in which we work, but I think that you are tackling the wrong thing.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Brian Whittle

Good morning. I am interested in the data on change of diet. I had a meeting yesterday with Food Standards Scotland about its report, and I was pleased to hear that it has the same concerns as I do that, although the overconsumption of red meat is a problem, the underconsumption of red meat is also a problem. There is no differentiation in the plan between red meat, white meat and other kinds of processed meat, which is a worry. The generalisation about reducing meat consumption by 20 per cent by 2030 and then later by 35 per cent will not lead to a healthier diet. I want to hear your understanding of where those figures come from.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Brian Whittle

I am sorry to interrupt you, but we have eaten red meat ad infinitum, and obesity has become a problem only in the past 20 or 30 years.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Brian Whittle

But is that processed meat? Are we talking about processed meat or are we talking about fresh meat that we produce? What are we talking about here?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Brian Whittle

Just finally, should we be doing more? Generally speaking, the production of meat has a high-carbon footprint globally. We should be exporting our knowledge of how we produce meat in this country, as compared with the United States, the far east or Argentina. Should we be differentiating between the way in which red meat is produced here and globally?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Brian Whittle

Am I out of time, convener?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Brian Whittle

I am talking about the Food Standards Scotland report and the way in which it has been interpreted.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Brian Whittle

It is just not.