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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 June 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Employment Rights Bill (UK Parliament Legislation)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Brian Whittle

Good morning. I thank the witnesses for their evidence so far, which is painting a picture of quite a disparate social care sector. One thing that they have talked about is the lack of parity of esteem between public and private social care, which is growing. As the independent sector has limited control over costs and how it can deliver social care, it does not have the same potential to flex that local government has. Following on from my colleague Sandesh Gulhane’s questions, I wonder how the national negotiating body might affect or impact commissioning or procurement decisions.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Brian Whittle

Good morning. I have an initial framing question about your understanding of the bill. It is incredibly difficult for somebody who is caught in a loop of addiction to decide to ask for help. The whole point of the bill is that, if that help is asked for, it is forthcoming timeously. Is that your understanding of what the bill is trying to achieve?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Brian Whittle

Does the Scottish Government’s perspective anticipate any barriers in relation to its ability to secure delivery of those rights?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Brian Whittle

Yes.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Brian Whittle

I will leave it there just now, convener.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Brian Whittle

For a number of years, you and I have been around this particular crisis, which has been much talked about. In fact, one slogan that came from those watching our discussions was, “You keep talking, we keep dying.” Despite the whole Parliament’s strong desire to make significant improvement, it has not been made. Although we accept that it must be amended, could the bill be a mechanism for the significant step change that we need but have failed to realise over the past decade?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Employment Rights Bill (UK Parliament Legislation)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Brian Whittle

On that particular point, have we, through immigration, been using cheap labour just to keep costs down? That is my only caveat about continuing to have such immigration—that the pay level is sustained.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Employment Rights Bill (UK Parliament Legislation)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Brian Whittle

Perhaps I can develop that slightly. In any negotiation—and I think that we all agree that the terms and conditions of our care sector need significant improvement—there are going to be cost implications for the private and independent sectors. If there is no further investment, there will be more closures in the independent sector. Can you explain the impact that that will have on the sector as a whole?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Brian Whittle

Given that, are there any barriers in relation to the Scottish Government’s ability to secure delivery of the rights as set out in the bill?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Brian Whittle

Thank you for that. Given that the bill is at stage 1, would any amendments be required to enable its successful implementation, from a Scottish Government perspective?