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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 August 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 November 2022

Brian Whittle

I am glad that you have mentioned the older market. Covid has accelerated the gap between life expectancy and the age at which people leave the workforce. That gap seems to be growing.

Marek Zemanik, are we giving people who are, or are potentially, leaving the workplace early the encouragement, experience and opportunity to develop and remain in the workforce in a manner that suits them?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 November 2022

Brian Whittle

Have I got time for a very short question, convener?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 November 2022

Brian Whittle

I know that Bee Boileau wants to comment on that, but I will add another layer. Are we marketing potential careers to our young people properly and giving them the vision of where they should be or could go? You cannot do it if you cannot see it, for want of a better phrase. What are your thoughts on that?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

Brian Whittle

With that issue in mind, there is the potential that a significant number of city centre offices will lie empty. I wonder whether we will end up with people moving back into city centres to live rather than to work. David, do you have any thoughts on that?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

Brian Whittle

Has the Resolution Foundation done any work in the area?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

Brian Whittle

Would anyone else like to comment?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

Brian Whittle

We have touched on this before, but I am interested in the significant impact that the attitude to work and the work-life balance, and changing working patterns such as hybrid working, are having on the city centre workforce. Are we going to have to redesign city centres? In this meeting, four witnesses are appearing remotely and one is in the room. Previously, when you had a business meeting, you were in a coffee shop somewhere or you had lunch or whatever, but that does not happen as much any more. Are we going to have to rethink the way in which we employ people in city centres? I will go to Dr Randolph first.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

Brian Whittle

Good morning, panel. On that point about the impact of long Covid on the economics of the labour market, do you agree that it is difficult for the statistics to highlight those people with long Covid who do not come into the office but who work part time from home and so are still potentially partially active? There are suggestions that 80,000-plus people live with long Covid, which presents a limitation. How do we look at the statistics and plug that point into our thinking? I will ask David Freeman, as he brought this up.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

Brian Whittle

Does anyone else want to come in? That was my final question.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

Brian Whittle

It has been interesting to listen to the discussion, although it has made my questions more complicated.

I want to ask about the impact of early retirement. Tony Wilson mentioned that furlough had acted almost as a driver of early retirement. There are certain industries with a higher age demographic. For instance, a friend of mine owns a haulage company, many of whose employees are 50 plus or—Professor Fothergill mentioned this—from eastern Europe, and especially Poland, strangely enough. During furlough, a lot of those eastern Europeans went home and did not come back, because there is a shortage of drivers in eastern Europe, so the company has to pay more. After furlough, many of the drivers over 50 did not come back or came back to do only a couple of shifts a week, because that gave them a better work-life balance. As a result, the wages in that industry have grown exponentially.

I will start with you, Tony, as you raised the issue. Have you done any work on the impact that early retirement has had on specific industries?