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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 June 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Brian Whittle

Annemarie, do you have anything to add to that?

11:30  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Brian Whittle

Good morning. Thank you very much for your candid views on the topic.

You have talked about the issues with the bill and the need to put money where it is most needed. I have been in the Parliament for nearly a decade and this topic has been at the forefront of the Parliament during that time, but the changes that have been made have all been negative. Do you not see that the bill could force the Parliament to consider how we look at addiction, how we treat addiction and how we fund addiction services? The bill could force the Parliament to change. It could focus the Parliament’s attention on the issue. That attention has been missing for all the time that I have been here.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Brian Whittle

My personal passion is for the prevention element. With the way in which the system works at the moment, there is no funding for third sector organisations, other than by going through statutory services, such as those that are part of the ADP programme. Those are the ones that pass on the funding to third sector organisations.

Has any work been done on the positive impact not just on the lives of people who are caught in addiction, but on society as a result of the reduction in the finances that would require to be spent? Is enough work being done to understand the positive impact, both personally and financially, of a system that works in the way that you want it to work?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Brian Whittle

The bill is designed to make sure that those who seek treatment get treatment.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Brian Whittle

Does anybody want to add to that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Brian Whittle

I agree—100 per cent—that a lot of the most effective treatment is being done by volunteers and third sector organisations in our communities. We are all aware of them in our communities. Would you accept that, by almost forcing the Government to offer treatment when it is asked for, that will, in and of itself, mean that all those services will have to be properly financed and supported?

The very services that we need are the ones that are being drained at the moment, so we need to finance them. Does the bill have the potential to pull them back into the mix?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Brian Whittle

I very much agree with that. I also very much agree that some of the biggest impact happening in our communities around third sector organisations is unseen. Many will not cross the lines of a statutory service, and the reality of what has happened over the past decade is that third sector organisations that have an impact on the front line are being starved of investment.

We have to do something different, which is why I ask whether the bill focuses attention on that.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Brian Whittle

There is so much to unpick, but I know that time is against us so I will leave it there.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Brian Whittle

We discussed the failings of the system with the previous witnesses. What would you do to get the bill into a position in which you were more comfortable with the whole trauma-informed approach?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Brian Whittle

I want to reflect on how the bill deals with the role of the third sector. I am aware of the way in which East Ayrshire dealt with the issues previously with its wraparound service, which seemed to be a success, but I am also aware of the pressure that it is currently under. I am thinking about the role of the third sector in facilitating access to treatment. It is very much a gateway or doorway, if you like, before people get to statutory services. Where does the bill sit in relation to delivering a holistic approach with the third sector? Since I started with my specific knowledge of East Ayrshire—one of my colleagues here knows even more about it than I do—I will bring in Liam Wells first.