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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

That would be appreciated.

I believe that we do not have any other questions, other than that we probably need to ask, for transparency and for the record, what your favourite acronym from the portfolio is. [Laughter.]

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

I feel that the committee might find this quite difficult. Can I just get this on the record, cabinet secretary? We have heard at length the evidence that Jackie Baillie has provided, some of which came via FOIs. Do you dispute Jackie Baillie’s contribution and the evidence that she has given today? Perhaps “dispute” is a bit hard—do you recognise the issue that Jackie Baillie’s constituents have raised? That is my first question.

Secondly, it is understood that the regulations need to come into force on 24 February to ensure that there are no unintended consequences, as there could be if we annulled the regulations, with rivers such as the Annan being put at detriment. If the committee were minded to annul the regulations, would there, in practice, be time for you and your officials to go away, revisit the issues that Jackie Baillie has brought up and amend the instrument, and for the committee to consider it in time for it to be actioned by 24 February?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

Ariane Burgess has a brief supplementary question.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

I am sorry, cabinet secretary, but I do not think that you are addressing Mr Eagle’s point. It was about how we stop a situation in which the committee is faced with making a decision when we agree with 99 per cent of the regulations but are not, on the basis of evidence that we have heard from constituents, comfortable with how one part of them will affect one area. I think that the question was about how we address that in the future. It was not about the broader, general approach, but about how we address those anomalies.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

There will be a division.

For

Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)

Against

Ariane Burgess (Highlands and Islands) (Green)
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con)
Tim Eagle (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP)
Emma Roddick (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
Elena Whitham (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP)
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD)

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

Certainly.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

In practice, who decides whether the data that has been received is sufficient and robust enough for a classification to be based on it? My question is not about what happens then. I know that, as you have said, you will make an effort to make contact. At what point does someone decide whether the data is sufficient to base a decision on it?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you. Do any members wish to debate the motion?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

I think that the committee would find it helpful to have a more detailed explanation of how the marine directorate will address some of the issues that we have heard about today before we, inevitably, end up considering a very similar SSI this time next year. That would be helpful.

As members have no further comments, I invite Jackie Baillie to wind up.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

I have a question on the back of that. You talked about the PSF scheme, which has a carbon audit element. There is also carbon audit funding through the farm advisory service. It is my understanding that the PSF scheme was not fully committed the last time round. Will you give us clarification on whether that scheme is likely to reopen and, if so, when? Also, the farm advisory service scheme was paused in September 2024. Is that likely to reopen or is it permanently closed?