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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Galloway and Ayrshire National Park Proposal

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Finlay Carson

It became clear that the misinformation and distrust were about some of the main issues: that house prices would be higher, that there would be less affordable social housing, and that there would be an impact on agriculture and forestry. There was also misinformation about whether renewables would be allowed to expand or would be more controlled in a national park. The fact that there was such misinformation suggests that there was no trust in the national parks and their performance.

An independent review would have taken away a lot of the doubt, speculation and fears at the outset of the designation process. I am not sure why you do not appreciate that point, because you have been telling us about misinformation all along. There is a lack of trust, and an independent review would certainly put that to bed, because the figures would be there and they would be independently reviewed. Moving forward, if future Governments were to be minded to designate a national park, it would be clear what the real picture is. At the moment, that trust does not exist, regardless of whether national parks are producing annual reports or whether they are being scrutinised by the Government or potentially by the Parliament.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Finlay Carson

We have more or less come to the end of the questions on part 3 of the bill.

Additional amendments to part 3 may be lodged on the Galloway national park and the process for proposing and designating a new national park. At this stage, it is probably more appropriate to bring up those suggestions or concerns around the existing bill in our next evidence session, but it could also inform our discussions on our stage 1 report on the Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill. I just wanted to put that on the record.

We come to the end of the evidence session. I propose that we suspend for 10 minutes.

09:42 Meeting suspended.  

09:50 On resuming—  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Offshore waters.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

But not offshore waters.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Given that we will be potentially passing the bill at stage 3, it would be helpful if the Parliament had a chance to scrutinise the grounds on which some of the interventions will be made, or have some understanding of what the code of practice might look like. If you desired to be helpful, minister, the code could be delivered in a draft form.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

That is exactly the point.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

That is useful, because the Welsh legislation is fairly fresh, and I am sure that you will need to look at it in a bit more detail. It would be helpful to get information on any amendments that you are considering lodging to reflect some of the good stuff from that bill.

You touched on the PAG advice that you received relating to the target topics. Could you share that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

You are talking about flexibility, The fact is that having “regard to” the code suggests that, in some circumstances, NatureScot might not have to follow the regulations set out in that code.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Absolutely.

12:30  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

It is quite clear that the Scottish Government has responsibilities in relation to biodiversity targets and good environmental status, but the two Governments have separate goals in relation to the marine environment. How can all of that be pulled together so that you can discharge your responsibilities when it comes to biodiversity targets offshore?