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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 9 February 2022
Finlay Carson
Thank you. That completes our consideration of the affirmative instrument. I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for attending.
I suspend the meeting briefly to allow for a change of witnesses. We will reconvene at 10.40.
10:34 Meeting suspended.Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 9 February 2022
Finlay Carson
I am conscious that we are rapidly running out of time. Rachael Hamilton has a brief supplementary question.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 9 February 2022
Finlay Carson
Our second item of business is consideration of an instrument that is subject to affirmative procedure. I refer members to pages 3 and 30 of their briefing packs.
I welcome back Mairi Gougeon, the Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs and Islands, for this agenda item. She is supported by Caroline Cowan, the interim deputy director for funding and strategy, and Iain Hepburn, the futures marine funding strategy delivery lead, Marine Scotland; and by Emma Phillips from the Scottish Government legal directorate. I invite the cabinet secretary to make an opening statement.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 9 February 2022
Finlay Carson
Good morning and welcome to the fifth meeting in 2022 of the Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee. Before we begin, I ask all members using electronic devices to turn them to silent.
Our first item of business is a decision on whether to take item 6 of today’s meeting in private, and whether to consider a draft letter on the national planning framework at our next meeting in private. Are we content to do so?
Members indicated agreement.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 9 February 2022
Finlay Carson
The result of the division is: For 7, Against 1, Abstentions 1.
Motion agreed to,
That the Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee recommends that the Aquaculture and Fisheries etc. (Scheme for Financial Assistance) (Scotland) Regulations 2022 [draft] be approved.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 2 February 2022
Finlay Carson
Okay. We have a supplementary question from Ariane Burgess.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 2 February 2022
Finlay Carson
Good morning, and welcome to the fourth meeting in 2022 of the Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee. I remind everyone who is using electronic devices to switch them to silent.
Our first item of business is a decision on whether to take items 5 and 6 in private. Do members agree to do so?
Members indicated agreement.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 2 February 2022
Finlay Carson
Under agenda item 2, we are continuing our evidence sessions on the Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill. I welcome our first panel, who will focus on policy outcomes relating to environment and sustainability. With us today are Iain Gulland, executive director and chief executive officer of Zero Waste Scotland; Dr Mike Rivington, land use system modeller at the James Hutton Institute; Dr Kirsteen Shields, lecturer in international law and food security at the Global Academy of Agriculture and Food Security; and Vicki Swales, head of land use policy at RSPB Scotland, who is representing Scottish Environment LINK.
We have about 90 minutes for questions. I will kick off. What are your experiences of the food system and the issues that Scotland faces in that system with regard to the environment, waste and related issues? I will go to each member of the panel. I would like Dr Rivington also to expand on experiences during the pandemic and how those might inform our approach to food policies in the event of further environmental shocks. However, we will start with Iain Gulland.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 2 February 2022
Finlay Carson
Our second panel on the Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill will focus on policy outcomes relating to public health. I welcome Dr Isabel Fletcher, a senior research fellow a the University of Edinburgh; Claire Hislop, the organisational lead for diet, physical activity and healthy weight at Public Health Scotland; Jill Muirie, the public health programme manager at Glasgow Centre for Population Health; and Jo Teece, a project manager at the British Dietetic Association.
We have until approximately 12:10 for questions. I will kick off. What is your understanding of what is meant when we talk about a good food nation? Do you agree that the bill as drafted will enable Scotland to achieve that ambition?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 2 February 2022
Finlay Carson
Item 4 is consideration of a negative instrument. I refer members to paper 4. No motion to annul the instrument has been lodged.
Members will note that the instrument breaches the rule that requires Scottish statutory instruments to be laid at least 28 days before they come into effect. The Scottish Government’s letter to the Presiding Officer states that the breach is
“due to the need to act urgently to avoid an economic loss to farmers by not accepting additional cuts of pigmeat into the scheme.”
I note that we wrote to the Scottish Government with questions when we originally considered the pigmeat scheme instrument, but we have yet to receive a response.
Does any member have any comment on the instrument?