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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 February 2022
Finlay Carson
I call Rachael Hamilton.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 February 2022
Finlay Carson
I appreciate that.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 February 2022
Finlay Carson
How would you consider student facilities such as refectories in halls of residence, which operate on a private basis, more or less, but which often receive public funding? Should such student bodies have to produce a good food nation plan?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 February 2022
Finlay Carson
You said that some people might be disappointed that the bill is just a framework, and that is perhaps why some of our witnesses have said that the bill lacks ambition. There is no indication in the bill of what that ambition is. We understand that much of that will come through secondary legislation, so, at this time, it is difficult to decide whether the bill will deliver. One witness suggested that it is a bit like putting the internet into a box. We understand that it includes things from soil quality right up to the nutrition of people in old folks homes, the right to food and the cost of food, but why is so much being left to secondary legislation when Parliament cannot scrutinise that? Much of that detail could have been in the bill.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 February 2022
Finlay Carson
The Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill is a Government bill. What are your views? You keep telling us that you will listen to our views. The bill is in front of us. Do you think that we need an independent body to oversee the plans?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 February 2022
Finlay Carson
We are focusing on who should do that. It is clear that we need to understand whether the Government thinks that there needs to be something to oversee that. The big question is: do you believe that something needs to oversee that? We can have an argument another day about who will do that, but do you think that there needs to be an external body overseeing the plans?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 February 2022
Finlay Carson
What plans do you have to consult on the secondary legislation? Again, if the secondary legislation is to be developed in parallel with the bill, how broadly are you going to consult on it? That is hugely important because, although we are looking at a framework bill, the secondary legislation will be the guts of it, if you like. What are your plans to consult on it?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 February 2022
Finlay Carson
Could you just set out exactly what the process is? From today, when do you plan to consult on the secondary legislation and how broad will that consultation be?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 February 2022
Finlay Carson
Good morning, and welcome to the sixth meeting in 2022 of the Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee. I ask all committee members who are using electronic devices to turn them to silent.
Our first item of business is an evidence session on the Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill. I welcome to the meeting Mairi Gougeon, the Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs and Islands. We also have Scottish Government officials. Ashley Cooke, the head of food policy, Tracy McCollin, the head of the good food nation team, and James Hamilton, a solicitor for the legal directorate, are giving evidence in the room; George Burgess, the deputy director for food and drink, is giving evidence remotely. I invite the cabinet secretary to make an opening statement.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 February 2022
Finlay Carson
The plan that the Government pulls together will be critical in setting out an idea of where local authorities might pitch their plans. Should that plan come before Parliament for approval? Should the legislation require Parliament’s approval of that Government plan?