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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 March 2026
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

Again, I am very aware of time, because we have only another seven minutes at most.

I have a very quick question, which will be directed to Ross and not to Duncan, because the RSPB does not use dogs for control. With regard to situations in which two dogs might be necessary for the purpose of environmental benefit, we have heard about exceptions, but it appears that there are few situations in which a licence will not be required, because there are few situations in which two dogs will be the most humane and animal welfare-minded way to flush foxes. There really are not exceptions. In my opinion, the licence is probably wrong, because we have heard that, in almost every situation in which dogs could be used, that will be more than two dogs. What are your thoughts on the two-dog limit and the licensing, which is for exceptions to that limit?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

We will move on to sections 1 and 2, which cover offences.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

Rachael Hamilton has a supplementary question.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

Penny Middleton indicated that she would like to come in.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

Does Ian Duncan Millar want to come in?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

We now have questions from Jim Fairlie and a supplementary question from Ariane Burgess.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

Perhaps Jake Swindells is best placed to answer that.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

We are running over time, but there is something that I would like to get on the record. With the bill moving forward, what are the critical amendments that should be made for you to think that it is workable and fit for purpose for the sectors that you represent? I would like to hear from you all individually, starting with Barrie.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

I welcome to the meeting our second panel, which will focus on conservation issues. We are joined by Ross Macleod, head of policy for the Scotland, Game and Wildlife Conservation Trust, and Duncan Orr-Ewing, head of species and land management at RSPB Scotland.

We have around 45 minutes for questions. I will kick off. What are your experiences of the use of dogs in relation to wildlife management for conservation purposes? Examples of that include for the control of non-native invasive species and for the management of predators of endangered species. We will kick off with Ross Macleod.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

We move to section 7, which is on exceptions for environmental benefit. We have touched on the issue somewhat already, but Ariane Burgess has a question.