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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 15 June 2022
Finlay Carson
Someone having a licence is supposed to be the exception, if you like. Is there a danger that decisions on the number of dogs will be arbitrary? As you said, there is an argument that the two-dog limit is being brought in just to stop mounted packs. We want to stop the groups that go out and hunt for pleasure, and the way to do that is to reduce the number of dogs to two. That appears to be what has happened south of the border. We have heard today that there are very few, if any, occasions on which two dogs are used to flush foxes to guns.
In your review, you note Lord Burns’s observation regarding the death of foxes, the crux of which is that the precise cause of death is less important than the speed at which the death occurs. Death by dogs takes a matter of seconds, so it is the pursuit that is the main source of welfare concerns. Naylor and Knott’s research showed that using two dogs rather than a pack can actually result in an increased period of pursuit, so it would not seem logical in most cases.
I am still to find anybody who can tell me where using two dogs would be the most appropriate and animal welfare-minded way to flush foxes. Why should there be an arbitrary two-dog limit when there is no evidence to suggest that that is the most appropriate number of dogs for any work?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 15 June 2022
Finlay Carson
I welcome everybody back to the meeting. I welcome to the meeting the Rt Hon Lord Bonomy, whose 2016 report made recommendations to improve the operation of the Protection of Wild Mammals (Scotland) Act 2002. With your permission, Lord Bonomy, we will move straight to questions. What is your overall assessment of the situation around hunting with dogs in Scotland, following your review in 2016?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 15 June 2022
Finlay Carson
I want to go back to Mr Richards’s response to the question about common frameworks. The notification actually states that the SI is not related to a common framework.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 15 June 2022
Finlay Carson
Thank you; that is very useful. Finally, we will move on to part 3 of the bill and enforcement.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 15 June 2022
Finlay Carson
Okay. Thank you.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 15 June 2022
Finlay Carson
Are there any further questions on that?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 15 June 2022
Finlay Carson
We will move on to licensing under sections 4, 8 and 9 of the bill.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 15 June 2022
Finlay Carson
That is helpful. Thank you.
Why is a reduced fee per consignment being proposed for those imports that are eligible for a reduced level of physical checks?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 15 June 2022
Finlay Carson
Finally, going back to what might be a drafting error, it would be useful to know whether the error relating to the 30 per cent frequency is in the UK draft. Before we give consent, can you let us know how that will be addressed? Ultimately, if the legislation is passed, the 30 per cent figure will stand. How will that be rectified if that is a drafting error?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 15 June 2022
Finlay Carson
Finally, is the committee content to delegate authority to me to sign off our report on our deliberations on this affirmative SSI?
Members indicated agreement.