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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Finlay Carson

That completes our consideration of the instrument. I thank the minister and his officials for attending today’s meeting. Rather than suspend the meeting, I will pause for a few moments to allow the minister and his officials to leave.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Finlay Carson

We have looked at the calf scheme, discussed rebasing and heard about the whole-farm plan, and it is quite clear that co-design is not working in the way that you would like it to work, as you have said that you wish that people had come forward to raise concerns sooner. It is all very well communicating a decision, but co-design is a lot more than that.

The Government is not good at co-design. We see the same issues arising in relation to things such as inshore fisheries and the Clyde cod box. Do you have any plans to review how co-design is currently working and how it can be improved?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Finlay Carson

The committee has been unclear on when the secondary legislation will come forward. Right from the start, it has not been clear whether that will be in the first half or the second half of 2025. When will that legislation come forward? It is important that the committee is aware of the timetable so that we can ensure appropriate scrutiny.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Finlay Carson

When you sat in this very room, discussing the bill that became the 2024 act, did you expect that, a year later, we would be discussing bringing in secondary legislation to enact legacy policies, rather than delivering SSIs that would deliver the rural support plan that we expected to be published in 2024?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Finlay Carson

Okay, so it will not restrict the Government’s ability to deliver plans—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Finlay Carson

Unless you have a specific question, Mr Eagle, we will have to move on.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Finlay Carson

This week, the Government has launched a consultation on delivering for rural Scotland. Communities have a month in which to respond. In addition, the committee wrote to the First Minister about rural proofing the national outcomes and the need for a specific set of indicators on the delivery of outcomes for rural areas. How does all of that tie in with future agriculture policy?

You have talked about the situation being complicated and a mess, but—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Finlay Carson

During our evidence taking for the bill, we heard from some of the biggest and most entrepreneurial farms and some of the smaller producers that they did not think that the base payment could continue forever and that it was a bit of a blunt instrument, although there was an appreciation that we have it to avoid a cliff edge. In your opinion, do we need to transition away from a basic payment on such a scale—the current 70 per cent—to a more targeted payment system? What are your views on how that might change? Would it be set out in the rural support plan, given that it will cover a five-year period?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Finlay Carson

That leads on nicely to a question from Rhoda Grant.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Finlay Carson

We do not need the exact detail; we just need to understand whether there are significant issues with the current IT system, and whether that will be a barrier to your delivering what you want in tiers 3 and 4. From what we understand, there are serious issues. All we want to know is whether you acknowledge that there are serious issues and how they might limit the Government’s ability to deliver its aspirations for tiers 3 and 4.