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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Finlay Carson
The result of the division is: For 2, Against 7, Abstentions 0.
Amendment 326 disagreed to.
Amendments 327 and 269 to 271 not moved.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Finlay Carson
I appreciate that.
I call Emma Harper to wind up the debate and to press or withdraw amendment 273.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Finlay Carson
If you would like to take the intervention, that is fine.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Finlay Carson
The result of the division is: For 2, Against 7, Abstentions 0.
Amendment 90 disagreed to.
Amendment 91 moved—[Mark Ruskell].
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Finlay Carson
I appreciate the cabinet secretary’s comments, but amendment 338 already highlights some of the issues that you say need to be discussed in the future. There are standards and certification in place for shell cleaning and processing, and there will always be record keeping and traceability requirements, which are mentioned in the amendment.
If there are no contamination issues with clean shells—the amendment is specifically about clean shells—finding workarounds to the waste management and animal by-product regulations will add cost, such as consultancy costs, waste management licence consultations and licence costs. Amendment 338 would take that away in a situation in which there is no issue with clean shells, and, again, the amendment makes it quite clear that the shells have to be clean. I am concerned that we would have a workaround rather than a perfectly simple, acceptable and inexpensive forever solution that would mean that companies would not have to deal with licensing or engage with SEPA or whatever. If they had a product that complied with the provisions in amendment 338, they could avoid the cost of putting that shell in the market.
I am not minded to withdraw amendment 338. If there are any technical issues that relate to the regulations that are in place, we could look to amend the provision at stage 3, but I would like to put down a marker that this is the right way forward. It would be good for a fishing industry that, as I have said, is facing ever-increasing pressures on its ability to fish as widely as possible, and it would maximise the full benefit of the scallop and its shell as a product. As I say, I am not minded to withdraw the amendment. I will press it to a vote as a marker, and we will work out any technical issues before stage 3.
The question is, that amendment 338 be agreed to. Are we agreed?
Members: No.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Finlay Carson
The result of the division is: For 5, Against 4, Abstentions 0.
Amendment 338 agreed to.
Before section 34
Amendment 35 moved—[Gillian Martin].
Amendment 35A moved—[Rachael Hamilton].
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Finlay Carson
I suspend the meeting for a changeover of ministers.
20:04 Meeting suspended.Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Finlay Carson
I am pleased to say that Rhoda Grant did not require rebooting, but her laptop did. That seems to have done the trick. Welcome back, Rhoda.
Amendment 32, in the name of Mark Ruskell, is grouped with amendments 32A to 32H.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Finlay Carson
The question is, that amendment 301 be agreed to. Are we agreed?
Members: No.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Finlay Carson
There will be a division.
For
Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Against
Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP)
Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con)
Eagle, Tim (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP)
Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP)
Abstentions
Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD)