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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 30 November 2022
Finlay Carson
Would my scenario—two beaters with two dogs each, and one person with a gun—be legal?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 30 November 2022
Finlay Carson
Thank you.
It is important that we understand the seriousness of the outbreak in Scotland and the risk to Scottish producers. In previous weeks, we have heard evidence on the wild bird population and the devastating impact on, for example, goose numbers along the Solway Firth. What is the tie-up between the intensity of the disease in the wild bird population in Scotland and the potential knock-on effect on commercial flocks?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 30 November 2022
Finlay Carson
Mike Flynn said that he thinks that it can happen; he did not say that there was any evidence that dogs are chasing, catching and killing rabbits during rough shooting. Again, we are looking specifically at rough shooting. If it is so clearly defined, why is there not an exemption? That is the point that I am driving at.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 30 November 2022
Finlay Carson
That just adds more confusion and again makes me think that what you define as rough shooting is not what it is. You suggested that somebody with a gun and somebody with dogs would have to be associated with each other. In practice, on a rough shoot, there might be five people with guns and eight, nine or 10 people, each with two dogs, who are not associated with the shooters. However, ultimately, the shooters require the dogs to work to flush the rabbits or the game. Will you explain again whether the scenario in which there is one person with a gun who does not have any dogs and two people—the beaters, if you like—who have two dogs each is illegal?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 November 2022
Finlay Carson
Last but not least is Mike Flynn, who is joining us remotely.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 November 2022
Finlay Carson
I will bring Jake Swindells in, and then we must move on.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 November 2022
Finlay Carson
We want to stick specifically to rough shooting, or we could be here until next week.
It was quite clear from the evidence that we took from the bill team and the minister that they have been caught out by the issues relating to rough shooting. I do not speak for most people, but I think that most people understand that the legislation on hare coursing needs to be strengthened. Including rabbits in the definition appears to be the simplest solution. In my opinion, the Government bill team did not appreciate what rough shooting is. Last week, we heard from Hugh Dignon that he had watched some YouTube videos, but he had not done so until after the issue had been highlighted.
If I remember correctly, Police Scotland suggested that it was not quite sure about the implications relating to rough shooting. DS Telford, in your opinion, are there better ways of catching hare coursers that will not lead to the unintended consequences of banning rough shooting as we know it?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 November 2022
Finlay Carson
We move to questions from Alasdair Allan on another topic that we want to delve into a bit more deeply.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 November 2022
Finlay Carson
We will move on.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 November 2022
Finlay Carson
I apologise, Beatrice—I missed out Kirsty Jenkins. Kirsty, would you like to come in?