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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

It is a perfectly valid question, but I think that you have jumped into part 2 of the bill.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

I will bring Mark Ruskell back in—very briefly, please.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Okay. If you do not mind my coming in here, Rhoda, I will continue. Is there not a conflict of interest if NatureScot—which ultimately will be the decision maker—has a role on the advisory panels?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Why the change? What cannot be achieved on the advisory panels with NatureScot as an observer?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

The difference is that NatureScot would be moving from its current position as an observer to having a formal role on advisory panels. That is where the concerns were, but you have addressed that.

I call Tim Eagle.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Surely the financial memorandum should try to reflect what is going to happen as well as what is possible, rather than the worst possible scenario.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Offshore waters.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

But not offshore waters.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Given that we will be potentially passing the bill at stage 3, it would be helpful if the Parliament had a chance to scrutinise the grounds on which some of the interventions will be made, or have some understanding of what the code of practice might look like. If you desired to be helpful, minister, the code could be delivered in a draft form.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Good morning, and welcome to the 19th meeting in 2025 of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee. Before we begin, I remind everyone who is using an electronic device to switch it to silent. We have received apologies from Elena Whitham.

The first item on the agenda is an evidence session with the Scottish Government as part of our consideration of the Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill at stage 1.

This week, we will conclude evidence gathering on parts 1, 2 and 4 of the bill before we move to part 3 of the bill next week. To discuss parts 1 and 2 of the bill, I welcome to the meeting Gillian Martin, Acting Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Energy. I also welcome from the Scottish Government: Leia Fitzgerald, head of the nature division bill unit; Lisa McCann, head of the biodiversity unit; and Joan McHutchison, solicitor.

You will be pleased to hear that we have allocated about two hours to discuss parts 1 and 2, and we have quite a few questions to get through. I ask members, the cabinet secretary and officials to be as succinct as possible. Before we begin, I ask the cabinet secretary to give a short opening statement.