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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Finlay Carson

Okay. Thanks.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Finlay Carson

Does the addition at the end of the definition not mean that it is not only what you have set out, and that it is open for individuals to construe it as they want? Does that not make it far more woolly?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Finlay Carson

Rachael, is your question on licensing?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Finlay Carson

That issue will come up in later questions.

We touched on the definition of hunting. The bill says that hunting includes “searching for and coursing”, and then, in brackets, it says:

“and related expressions are to be construed accordingly”.

Does not that allow a huge amount of uncertainty about what the definition might be, and how would that be interpreted in law?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Finlay Carson

Our second item of business is consideration of three instruments that are subject to the negative procedure. I refer members to paper 3. Do members have any comment on the instruments? Members have no comments.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Finlay Carson

The next item is consideration of consent notifications on two United Kingdom statutory instruments. I refer members to paper 4 and page 38. Do members have any comments on either notification? Members have no comments.

In relation to the Aquatic Animal Health (Amendment) Regulations 2022, are members content with the proposal to write to the Scottish Government to ask how any disputes will be resolved between the three UK Administrations over amendments to relevant lists, and to highlight to the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee the changing role for the Scottish Parliament as a result of that SI?

Members indicated agreement.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Finlay Carson

We are about to move on to questions on licensing, so we have slightly jumped the gun.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Finlay Carson

We have a supplementary question from Mercedes Villalba.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Finlay Carson

The Law Society raised a concern, so it must be more than just a general provision. It considers that there is a need for subsequent guidance and prosecution policy. Will that be forthcoming?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Finlay Carson

Thank you very much. We have about 90 minutes for questions. My first question was going to be about the bill’s overall purpose, but you have covered most of that in your opening statement.

Is the bill a sledgehammer to crack a nut? Given that you have said that the vast majority of fox control is not with dogs, what level of deliberate or unintentional law breaking is there under the existing legislation? Taking that into consideration, is the new bill not based on the principle of evidence, and is it more to do with prejudice and stopping mounted packs?