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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

On a practical basis, how can landowners or land managers protect themselves and ensure that they are not subject to an intervention? The scope of the target is extremely wide and covers many different areas. Someone might have a piece of land that could be managed for preservation of internationally recognised peat bogs, heather or various species, but that might be at odds with promoting woodland enhancement. How are you going to decide what features are going to be the prominent features that you want to protect? How can landowners ensure that, as they go about their day-to-day work, they do not inadvertently trigger a legal intervention on the basis that they are preserving nature or a certain species in a way that NatureScot or whoever does not agree with?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

In practice, that could mean fining someone who sets up a barbecue or campfire during a certain period in the year when that could be dangerous. Is that the sort of practical implication?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

That concludes our questions absolutely bang on time. Thank you very much for joining us and for your succinct and informative responses to our questions.

I suspend the meeting for 15 minutes, after which we will look at part 4 of the bill.

10:30 Meeting suspended.  

10:44 On resuming—  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

I ask for clarity on exactly where the responsibility lies. The bill states that, if a deer notice is to be issued, it is to be issued to the landowner and/or the manager. If a landowner has an agreement in place, whether that is a tenancy, a stalking licence or shooting rights, is the notice issued to the people with the stalking or shooting rights or to the tenant? By default, if there is no agreement in place, does the responsibility land with the landowner?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

I am still unclear. If I own a piece of land and have a tenancy agreement in place, and if deer that are on my property cause road accidents, stray into another area or eat trees, where does the responsibility sit? In the absence of some agreement about who is responsible—it might be the tenant or the person who has the shooting rights—does it default to the landowner?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

I will bring in Ariane Burgess to ask a supplementary question on the response to Elena Whitham’s question. After that, I will bring in Tim Eagle and then Emma Harper.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

We will move on to that later. There is a question on that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

We move to our final set of questions. Emma Harper will kick off on that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you. We will move on to part 2 of the bill, which Evelyn Tweed will ask about.

09:45  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

On that point, NatureScot is going to report on a consultation, but the people who are participating in that consultation are referring to the 2000 act, which will be amended by the bill. You say that there should be no conflict, but there absolutely is, because people are responding to an old act that will no longer be in place if designation of a Galloway national park actually goes forward. The legislation will look different and, although you suggest that the differences are not significant, they potentially are. NatureScot set out, in its 2023 advice to ministers, that it would suggest

“The identification of ‘priority nature zones’ in”

a national park, which would

“formally contribute to 30x30 ... targets”.

Given the nature of Galloway’s intensive industrial forestry, intensive dairy and intensive renewables activity, that might cause a conflict. With regard to the current consultation, the potential amendments that NatureScot has suggested could be viewed as having a significant impact on how people in the area might respond.