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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

Tim, do you want to come in?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

I have one final question, but first I want to go back to the topic that Tim Eagle referred to and ask about how the decision on the list of aims was made. The bill states:

“Without limit to the generality of subsection (1), those aims include”,

and then it sets out a list.

We must be conscious that, for Galloway, which is potentially going to be designated as a national park, its economic future is not reserved to recreation, tourism or visitor management. The most significant commercial forestry in Scotland is based in an area of Galloway; we have the most significant dairy industry in Scotland and, potentially, in the United Kingdom; and one of our areas has the highest concentration of renewables. However, those industries have been excluded from the list. It must have been a conscious decision not to mention them. Given that Galloway is the only area to have been identified as Scotland’s next national park, why do the aims seem to exclude all economic activity other than tourism and recreation?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

At the moment, there are fixed-penalty notices for littering and fly-tipping in Loch Lomond and the Trossachs. Can you give examples of where else fixed-penalty notices might be used?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

I am a bit confused. You said that NatureScot could ultimately say that the plan is the plan. However, section 16(3) amends an appeals process that is set out in schedule 2 of the 1996 act.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

Okay. Thank you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

I can see there being issues in the future about legal obligations in the absence of any legal agreement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

It is not the process of the consultation that is the issue here. At no point during the consultation was it suggested that the rules under which the national park might operate would change. That is the issue. There was no opportunity for constituents to respond to the fact that the rules under which their area might have to operate will change.

It is not an ideal situation; it is not an ideal scenario that the two things are working in parallel. One should have been done before the other. The Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill, with the national park changes, would preferably have become legislation before a new national park was consulted on, surely.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

Okay. Thank you. We move to our next topic with a question from Elena Whitham.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

What is the difference from the previous powers in the 1972 act?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

Will all the other powers sunset apart from the ones that you have mentioned? Will they be lost?