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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
Alan McDonnell has indicated that he wants to come in. Alan, maybe you could give your view on how the Government has come up with a different figure to the CCC and how it could justify that.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
I think that Peter Hutchinson would like to kick off on that.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
I have a supplementary question on that. We are looking at the Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill, which is between stage 2 and stage 3. Will there be a conflict of some sort whereby one section of Government is looking at biodiversity and everything that is tied in with that bill, whereas another is focusing on how much peatland we restore? As politicians, we are always very good at saying—as I have done—that the Government has not met its targets. Will there be a conflict in ensuring that the outcomes from the Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill align with those from the climate change plan?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
Chris Stark, the former chair of the Climate Change Committee, used to say that we had not made progress because there was a lack of pragmatism, realism and confidence among people that the targets could be met. From what I just heard, there needs to be confidence, certainty and clarity to allow investment.
The points are a bit like those that we will hear from forestry sector stakeholders later. If there was a risk register or risk assessment, one of the things raised would be a lack of confidence in getting a return on investment in the future, which has been a theme throughout. Hannah Wheatley touched on the need for an integrated funding system, but it appears unclear how it will look. When will we get the clarity and confidence to allow private sector investors to get involved?
We have heard about contractors who, in the past, were expected in some cases to invest multimillions in equipment although there was still a risk that the goalposts would be moved—were they on a register, were they approved and did they meet standards? How far away are we from their having the confidence to invest for the next 10, 15 or 20 years?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
Thank you.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
Ariane Burgess has a supplementary question.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
Would you like to move on to your main question, Ariane?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
Does Hanna Wheatley want to come in?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
Finally and briefly, I will bring in Willie McGhee.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
Anyway, that was just a point. I see that Rhoda Grant has no further questions to ask, so we will move on to the next question, which is from Ariane Burgess.