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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

Yes.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

We will now hear from a panel of Scottish Government officials who are involved with the provisions in the bill on deer management. I welcome Hugh Dignon, who is the head of the wildlife management unit; and, returning, Leia Fitzgerald, who is the head of the nature division bill unit, and Norman Munro, who is a solicitor in the marine planning and natural resources division. Thank you for joining us.

We have until approximately 12 o’clock for this evidence session. Ariane Burgess has the first question.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

Okay. We were not clear about that, but there is an ability to appeal.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

Okay. Thank you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

We will now move on to part 3, which is on national parks. We have a question from Emma Harper.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

Is that not putting the cart before the horse? Surely we should be able to understand how the parks are performing under the existing legislation before making amendments to change it. We do not actually know whether they are performing or not.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

Our next item of business is an evidence session on the Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill with the Scottish Government bill team. We will hear from two panels of Scottish Government officials who are involved in the bill. First, we will discuss provisions in the bill on nature targets, environmental assessments and national parks. For this part of the meeting, I welcome Dr Jack Bloodworth, the principal science adviser from the rural and environmental science and analytical services division—my goodness, that is a mouthful—Leia Fitzgerald, head of the nature division bill unit; Lisa McCann, head of the biodiversity unit; Norman Munro, a solicitor from the marine, planning and natural resources division; and Joanne Napier, senior policy officer from the offshore energy environmental legislative reform unit. I thank you all for joining us this morning.

We have a lot of questions to get through in a limited time, so concise questions and answers would be appreciated. I also remind you that you do not need to operate your microphones. We have until approximately 10:30 for the first panel. I will kick off the questions.

The Scottish Government has overarching goals to deliver on its Scottish biodiversity strategy. How will the statutory nature targets help to achieve those goals, and how can that help in the fight to halt biodiversity loss by 2030 and to restore and regenerate biodiversity across the country by 2045?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

The bill requires targets to be put in place within 12 months of its coming into force. That would be in 2026-27, and then 2030 is only three years down the road. Is there any chance at all that we might achieve the ambitions that are set out in the bill, with three years to reverse what is a biodiversity crisis?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

You mentioned traceability. How do you ensure that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Finlay Carson

I am just concerned that we are taking away a licence that ensures standards but there is nothing in its place.