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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
Thank you. Would Mike Perks like to come in on that?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
Jo, we are hearing that there is capacity in the sectors. According to David Robertson, the risk might be the slow progress on approving applications and getting new planting in the ground.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
Yes—go ahead, Rhoda.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
Yes—sorry.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
Good morning, and welcome to the first meeting of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee in 2026. I wish everybody a happy new year.
Before we begin, I remind everyone to switch their electronic devices to silent.
Under our first agenda item, do members agree to review the evidence heard on the draft climate change plan in private today and at future meetings?
Members indicated agreement.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
Our second agenda item is an evidence session on the Scottish Government’s draft climate change plan.
Beatrice Wishart, Tim Eagle, Ariane Burgess, Emma Roddick and Rhoda Grant are all joining us remotely today because of the weather. Some of the witnesses will also be contributing remotely.
We are also joined by Edward Mountain, who is a reporter for the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. Do you have any declarations of interest to make, Edward?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
Before we move on, I want to pick up on Emily Taylor’s suggestion that some smaller schemes, which would have a far bigger return when it comes to biodiversity, water quality and so on, appear to be bypassed for big, land-based projects in the Highlands that will, potentially, attract private money. Are there processes to address that, or will they be developed as part of the implementation of the Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill and the climate change plan? Are you hopeful that we will see a change, and that it is about not just the biggest bang for our buck but the consideration of those other benefits?
09:30Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
Does anyone else wish to say anything about the just transition?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
Welcome back. We will now discuss the forestry aspect of the draft climate change plan with our next and final panel of non-governmental organisations and academics.
I welcome to the meeting Dr Mike Perks, principal scientist in climate change at Forest Research; Dr Ruth Mitchell, biodiversity and ecosystems group leader at the James Hutton Institute; and Alan McDonnell, from Trees for Life, who appears as the convener of Scottish Environment LINK’s woodland group. All of them are joining us remotely. Joining us in person is Dr Alessandro Gimona, who is a senior landscape scientist at the James Hutton Institute.
Before we start, I remind everyone that time is against us, so please try to make questions and answers succinct. You do not need to operate your microphones.
I will kick off on the woodland creation ambitions in the draft climate change plan. The ambitions are lower than those suggested in the Climate Change Committee’s advice. I would like you to explore the implications of that gap and whether the higher targets would be feasible. Given that gap, what will the trade-offs between the existing and higher targets mean in practice?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Finlay Carson
Does that gap exist because the Scottish Government has looked into it in greater detail and decided that it can achieve the same outcome on less hectarage, because it is not planting on mineral soils or whatever? Alternatively, is it being driven by budget and what the Government thinks is a more pragmatic target?