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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Finlay Carson
Okay. I call Jim Fairlie.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Finlay Carson
That is grand. We move on to muirburn and questions from Rhoda Grant.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Finlay Carson
I am not aware that we are. It is not taking part in any of the witness sessions.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Finlay Carson
Welcome back, everyone. We are joined by our second panel of witnesses: Libby Anderson is a member of the Scottish Animal Welfare Commission; Ian Andrew is chief executive officer of the British Pest Control Association; Ross Ewing is director of moorland at Scottish Land & Estates; Chief Superintendent Mike Flynn is from the Scottish Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals; Liz McLachlan is from NatureScot’s wildlife management team; and Alex Hogg is chairman of the Scottish Gamekeepers Association. Again, we have approximately 90 minutes scheduled for this session.
I will kick off with the first question. Do you agree with the provisions in the bill that ban the use and purchase of glue traps, which follows the advice of the Scottish Animal Welfare Commission? Do you agree that a ban on the use of glue traps is more appropriate than a licensing system?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Finlay Carson
I was certainly not implying that you had anything to hide.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Finlay Carson
Okay. Thank you.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Finlay Carson
We will jump back now to additional regulation.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Finlay Carson
Thank you.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Finlay Carson
Before we move from whether the bill is proportionate—we have talked about licensing and the penalties, as well as the potentially grave consequences of a licence being removed—do you think that it is proportionate that someone who has set a trap incorrectly or whose trap has been tampered with could face their licence being suspended? A licence could be suspended on instigation of an official investigation rather than when there is proof of guilt or there is the burden of proof. Is that proportionate?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Finlay Carson
Yes, that is fine.