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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 March 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

I was just reminding you that we have plenty of time, so there is no need to interrupt the minister when she is giving a response. I want to make sure that we carry out our debate with the highest level of respect. So, if the minister is responding, I request that you do not interact until she has finished her answer. You will have plenty of time during the debate phase, and later in the agenda, to raise all the points that you need to raise.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

I have a couple of questions about the deer cull. How many authorisations for out-of-season culling are sought but rejected? Have authorisations been rejected? If so, on what basis are they rejected?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Bracken Control

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

I have an issue to raise before I move on to other members. You mentioned tree growth. There was a 28 per cent increase in bracken biomass while Asulox was licensed for use. The situation would appear to be out of control. I take on board your point that we are talking about only 2 per cent of bracken, but we have removed one of the tools to tackle it. We cannot plant trees where there is bracken that needs to be controlled; doing that will not work. Is it not a chicken-and-egg situation? If you cannot plant the trees, how will they stop the growth of bracken? I am a bit confused.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Bracken Control

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

I am still a bit confused. This is probably one of the reasons why there was a bit of confusion when we looked at the issue prior to the summer recess. The UK Expert Committee on Pesticides looks at chemicals, and the HSE looks at that evidence to make a decision. In making its decision, the HSE considers whether the benefits outweigh the potential harm. I get that—that is one of the critical factors.

The ECP said that it would not recommend granting emergency authorisation. Much of that was due to the fact that the applicants had not provided any more information, which is one of the technical obligations for getting an emergency authorisation. It is not an emergency if nothing changes; it is an on-going issue. The ECP based its advice on the fact that, technically, nothing had changed and therefore the situation could not be considered to be an emergency.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

My concern is that, if someone is authorised to lamp, that would mean that they were automatically authorised to use night sights without any additional conditions applying to that authorisation, which might mean that, if NatureScot refused to authorise someone to use night sights, because it felt that there was an issue with that person’s ability to use them safely or competently, they would lose the ability to lamp as well.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

The possibility that, if people are deemed not to be suitably trained or qualified to use night-vision sights, they might not get a lamping licence, because the authorisation covers both things, is quite concerning. As far as I can see, there is no differentiation between an authorisation for lamping and an authorisation for night sights.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

Fit and competent to lamp, but not necessarily fit and competent to—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

For the record, I am very concerned that the scheme potentially does not require anyone to say whether they are going to lamp or whether they are going to use infrared or thermal sights. That means that an authorisation could potentially be given to someone who is competent in lamping but who has never used a night sight at all and who may also not be equipped with sights that are up to the standard that we would like in order to ensure not only the highest level of animal welfare but also public safety, which is where my concern lies.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

The result of the division is: For 6, Against 2, Abstentions 0.

Motion agreed to.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

I am minded to turn to Edward Mountain to open the questioning.