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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 March 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

We have been joined by Edward Mountain. Edward, do you have some questions?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

But is that based on the technology or based on the fact that the practitioner is seen as being up to standard? I know that we are talking not about individuals but about a scheme. So, if someone puts in an application for authorisation for night shooting in a forest, they would only need to come up to the lamping standard, but they could, in effect, go out and use infrared sights under that authorisation. It is a general you-can-shoot-at-night authorisation.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

As we do not have any further questions, we move to the next agenda item, which is formal consideration of the motion to approve the instrument. I invite the minister to move motion S6M-09460.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

We are not agreed, so we will move to a vote.

For

Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)
Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP)
Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green)
Forbes, Kate (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP)
Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD)

Against

Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con)
Hamilton, Rachael (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con)

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

Is the committee content to delegate authority to me to sign off a report on our deliberations on this affirmative SSI?

Members indicated agreement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

We now move to consideration of a negative SSI and, once again, I welcome Lorna Slater, the Minister for Green Skills, Circular Economy and Biodiversity, and her officials.

I ask Lorna Slater to make an opening statement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

I have a question that follows on from that. The use of light-intensifying sights, heat-sensitive sights or other special sights is quite different from lamping. So, although I am not an expert, I suggest that the skill level that is required to ensure a clean kill is significantly higher with the newer methods. However, it appears that the legislation will allow people to use the new methods without there being a separate authorisation scheme. Are there plans to bring in additional training requirements or update the best practice guide?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

Will it update the level of competence that is required in order for someone to be authorised to engage in night shooting if that person is using night sights rather than going lamping? There is quite a difference in the skill level that is required.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

I am still concerned about the fact that there is only one authorisation scheme. Can you give us an indication of how many stalkers are currently authorised to lamp—to shoot at night?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Finlay Carson

How can NatureScot be assured that the stalker has the appropriate training if the authorisation is not for individuals? I am concerned about the lowest common denominator here. If there is only one authorisation scheme, someone who is authorised to shoot at night—to lamp—would automatically be able to shoot using night sights. As we have already suggested—and I think we have agreed—that requires a different level of skill, given the margins of error that infrared or heat-sensitive sights have. If someone was at the standard to be able to lamp, they would automatically get authorisation to use night sights—is that correct?