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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 November 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Excellent. That is good to hear.

We will move on to part 3, which is on national parks. Emma Harper has a question on that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Finlay Carson

The next item on the agenda is our final evidence session on the Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill. I welcome Maurice Golden, who is the member in charge of the bill; he is supported by parliamentary officials. We have around 90 minutes for the session.

I will kick off with a nice straightforward question. Mr Golden, you have based a lot of the bill’s provisions on the UK Pet Abduction Act 2024, but, given that it was introduced only last summer, no substantive research has yet been carried out on the act’s effectiveness. Can you advise the committee why you decided to introduce your bill at this stage rather than wait until there was evidence on the success, or otherwise, of the 2024 act?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Finlay Carson

The next question is from Emma Roddick, who joins us online.

As we cannot connect to Emma, we will move on and come back to her if we can get her online.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Finlay Carson

We will try again to bring in Emma Roddick. Can you hear us now, Emma?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Would it create an issue whereby a person would be allowed to provide an impact statement in relation to dog theft, but the same thing would not happen in any other case that was not a solemn case?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Finlay Carson

In practical terms, how will the targets affect your members? Do you have any indication of how they will be focused in the right area or how they will be worked up?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Finlay Carson

I will go to Jenny and then Elspeth and Caroline.

I am sorry, Jenny, but we missed the first part of your answer because you were on mute. Will you start again, please?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Finlay Carson

One aspect—I think that Caroline McParland touched on this—is the capacity within NatureScot or, potentially, local authorities or other bodies, to undertake, first, the baseline research and, further down the line, the monitoring. Are there concerns over how that might work?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Finlay Carson

To close off our discussion on part 2, I have a very simple point. In previous evidence sessions, we have heard concerns that there are no overriding or overarching environmental safeguards or limitations, that there is no non-regression provision and that there appear to be few safeguards around the overarching power that the bill would deliver. Is part 2 needed at all? Should we scrap it altogether, or does it need to be hugely amended to put safeguards in place? I hope that we can have brief responses on that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Is there a general understanding of what the targets will be and how they will affect businesses in a practical sense? It is all very well ministers setting statutory targets, but how will that translate in practice? You say that there is lots of talk going on, but we understand that that is not the case in some sectors. We are in a crisis, so how long will it take to see how the targets will affect the work of businesses day to day? For example, there could be changes to UK forestry standards and how national parks deal with forestry. How long will it take for us to see secondary legislation with actual targets and information on how to deliver those targets?