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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 December 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Finlay Carson

We wanted to get your views on whether you can see anything in the future around natural impacts—the change in weather or increase in pests—that we need to be aware of and potentially consider as part of the bill.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Finlay Carson

Throughout the evidence, it has been implied that unlicensed or flapper tracks are more dangerous and more likely to have illegal activity or whatever. Is that the case? Is Thornton different from other unlicensed or flapper tracks in the UK?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Finlay Carson

I am really struggling here. We are not comparing apples with apples. Most of the information that we have had from the Scottish Animal Welfare Commission is about the activities of the GBGB and professional, industrial-scale greyhound racing, if I can put it that way. However, what we have not had, which makes this difficult, is information surrounding the one and only flapper track, as it is described—the unlicensed track.

There is legislation in place specifically to protect greyhounds—greyhounds are mentioned in the legislation—but what confidence can we have that there are no animal welfare issues at Thornton if there is not regular inspection somehow? I understand that the SSPCA does not have access to—or has not taken access to—Thornton, and we have no other way to understand whether there are or are not animal welfare issues at the track and, subsequently, in the breeding of those animals. You are saying that it is mostly a hobby thing.

How are we to understand how we can improve animal welfare if we do not have Scotland-specific information? We have no GBGB tracks in Scotland; we have only an unlicensed track. So, how can we be confident—or what needs to be put in place to ensure—that we know that the current legislation ensures the best welfare for greyhounds? Do you think that the SSPCA or the Government should be doing more to ensure animal welfare at these tracks? All the information in front of us is about the GBGB, and, from what I understand, it is comparing apples with pears. Your business at Thornton is completely different from the GBGB model.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Finlay Carson

Welcome back, everybody. Our next item of business this morning is consideration of PE1758, which is on ending greyhound racing in Scotland. I welcome to the meeting Paul Brignal, who is the owner and director of Thornton Greyhounds; and Mark Bird, who is the chief executive officer, and Professor Madeleine Campbell, who is an independent director, of the Greyhound Board of Great Britain.

We have about 75 minutes for questions and discussion. I invite all our witnesses to give a short opening statement. I will ask Paul Brignal to start.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Finlay Carson

As the director and the owner of the track, do you go through a procedure? Do you have a board of directors that meets regularly and decides that an owner has presented a dog regularly that has not been, in your view—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Finlay Carson

Can we open up the topic of labour more broadly? Can I have your views on the current labour issues that we face in agriculture and horticulture, focusing on what can be done through an agriculture bill to alleviate some of the issues?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Finlay Carson

Thank you.

It was remiss of me not to mention that we have with us Mark Ruskell MSP, who has taken a very close interest in this topic as we have taken evidence. Mark will have an opportunity to ask some questions, but I will first bring in Ariane Burgess.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Finlay Carson

I suppose that we have an example of how that might play out, because there was a licensed track that stopped dead. What happened to the dogs that you were licensing to race in Glasgow? What was the immediate impact of that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Finlay Carson

Paul Flanagan, in the dairy industry we have seen some managers changing the working week for dairymen. We know that milking cows is a hard task—I have been there and done that—but we are seeing different practices. From your perspective, how can labour shortages be addressed in the future?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Finlay Carson

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the 12th meeting in 2023 of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee. We welcome to the meeting our new member, Christine Grahame, who is replacing Jenni Minto. Members should also note that Mercedes Villalba has left the committee. I thank Mercedes for her contribution to the committee over the past two years and wish her all the best. Rhoda Grant has been appointed to the committee but, due to a previous constituency engagement, she is not able to be here with us this morning and has given her apologies. Before we begin, I remind those members using electronic devices to please turn them to silent mode.

Under the first agenda item, I invite Christine Grahame to declare any relevant interests.