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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 March 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Finlay Carson

We have no further questions, so I thank Christine Grahame and her NGBU colleagues for providing evidence. I suspend the meeting for a comfort break.

11:17 Meeting suspended.  

11:25 On resuming—  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Finlay Carson

Our second item of business is consideration of the draft Quality Meat Scotland (Amendment) Order 2023. I welcome Mairi Gougeon, the Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Land Reform and Islands, and her officials: Michelle Colquhoun, head of livestock products policy, and Mairead McCrossan, a lawyer at the Scottish Government. I invite the cabinet secretary to make an opening statement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Finlay Carson

We understand that the 2008 order sets only the maximum levy. Is there a reason why it has not been reviewed more frequently? Will you review it more frequently in the future so that we do not get such legislation only every 10 years? If we compare the current maximum levy with the proposed maximum levy, we can see that there is a big increase, and some stakeholders have raised concerns about that. If it was raised every two years or every five years, the ceiling might not have to rise so much. Why have you not reviewed it more often? It is 13 years since the matter was last discussed.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Finlay Carson

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the 30th meeting in 2023 of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee. We have received apologies from Karen Adam MSP. I welcome to the meeting Emma Harper MSP, who is substituting for her.

I remind committee members who are using electronic devices to switch them to silent.

Our first item of business is a decision on whether to take in private item 9, which is consideration of the evidence that we will take on the Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill. Do members agree to take that item in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Finlay Carson

I appreciate that, but this is the last time that we can look at the matter. We are about to approve an increase in the ceiling—I absolutely understand that that is what we are doing—but the Parliament and this committee have no role whatsoever in scrutinising when any levy increase may or will kick in. The levies for cattle, sheep and pigs will increase, but we will not have any role in that and we will not be able to assess what the financial impact will be. That is what I am trying to get at. Do you see the committee having any role in the future in relation to the ability of QMS and ministers to raise the levy?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Finlay Carson

Rachael Hamilton asked about targeted consultation. Can you give us a list of those who were asked to respond to the consultation?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Finlay Carson

Absolutely. I have a small supplementary question from Rhoda Grant and then we will go to Emma Harper.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Finlay Carson

Thank you, Alasdair. I will decide whether my question is valid.

My question is about the fact that you got only two responses from nine consultees. Was there any effort to get further responses to what was a targeted, rather than an open, consultation? That is where my question is coming from.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Finlay Carson

Do you have the ability to go back to QMS and say that you are not satisfied with the consultation and that you want to see approval from the stakeholders?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Finlay Carson

I am not questioning QMS’s ability to do that. I am just asking, on the back of Rhoda Grant’s question, whether you have the power to go back to QMS and say, “We know that you’ve consulted, but we want an affirmative, positive response from the industry that the levy increase is acceptable.”