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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 March 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

We are rapidly running out of time; in fact, we have gone over our time. I will bring in Vera Eory and then Kirsty Jenkins.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

There is a question.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Thank you. I am sure that we will follow up on that question.

It has been a mammoth session. I thank the witnesses for the huge amount of information that they have relayed to committee members, which we will consider in our future deliberations on the bill.

12:06 Meeting suspended.  

12:07 On resuming—  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Ross Paton, I will give you the right to reply, very briefly.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Yes, very briefly.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

We have a question about CPD a little further on. We will come back to that issue and discuss it more widely. Let us move on.

10:00  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Going back to CPD and how we get farmers to adopt documents that are potentially sitting on the shelf, I ask Dr Liz Barron-Majerik of Lantra Scotland to come in on that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

I will press you on that. How can progress on becoming more regenerative and sustainable be measured, monitored and evaluated? We are at the business end of the bill, and we are looking at potential amendments. How can the bill ensure that the objectives are met?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

It appears to me that there is a lot of ability to use a stick, rather than a carrot, because the bill requires a person

“to undertake particular, or a particular amount of, CPD activities”.

It also refers to

“monitoring and enforcement of any requirement to undertake ... CPD”

and

“appeals against decisions of the Scottish Ministers ... relating to any requirement to undertake CPD”.

There is a lot about using a stick and not very much about what you guys have just mentioned, which is very much about farmers’ desire to undertake training in order to do their job better. The bill appears to be very stick heavy. Is that the right approach?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

I reassure our witnesses that I have a note of everyone who wants to comment. I will bring in Liz Barron-Majerik next.