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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 13 December 2023
Finlay Carson
Who would like to kick off?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 13 December 2023
Finlay Carson
Do members have any questions?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 13 December 2023
Finlay Carson
We now move to the formal consideration of the motion to approve the instrument.
Motion moved,
That the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee recommends that the Wine (Miscellaneous Amendment) (Scotland) Regulations 2024 [draft] be approved.—[Mairi Gougeon]
Motion agreed to.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 13 December 2023
Finlay Carson
Is the committee content to delegate authority to me to sign off the report on our deliberations of this affirmative SSI?
Members indicated agreement.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 13 December 2023
Finlay Carson
You do not need to operate your microphone.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 13 December 2023
Finlay Carson
Yes, we will stick to this topic.
Until now, we have had ring-fenced multiyear funding. I am going to ask you about that again. With regard to when it is ring fenced and when it is not ring fenced, you talked about unallocated money, but £61 million was taken out of what most people regarded as ring-fenced money. As you said, the Bew review identified that Scotland did not get enough money, but the Scottish Government decided to remove that from the agriculture budget. Was that part of the 17 per cent that you mentioned or was it over and above?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 13 December 2023
Finlay Carson
So, what happened to the Bew money? The £61 million additional—
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 13 December 2023
Finlay Carson
It was part of the £620 million.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 13 December 2023
Finlay Carson
I am not—you are asking for guarantees on ring-fenced funding and for funding that was allocated to agriculture to be spent on agriculture, but that has not happened in the past couple of years.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 13 December 2023
Finlay Carson
Okay. With regard to the five-year funding plan that we would like to see alongside the future rural plan, the current expectation is that future farming funding should still be UK money and should not come via the block grant. Is that correct? It would be UK Government money for agriculture. However, the bill seems to suggest that that money could then be diverted wherever—as a saving, say—so it is not actually ring fenced in the legislation in front of us. Is that right?