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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2024
Finlay Carson
The result of the division is: For 4, Against 5, Abstentions 0.
Amendment 103 disagreed to.
Amendment 42 not moved.
Section 16, as amended, agreed to.
After section 16
Amendment 168 moved—[Rhoda Grant].
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2024
Finlay Carson
As we know, the objectives are very high level. As a result, people’s understanding of what they mean differs quite broadly. We heard from your officials at a previous evidence session that they should be interpreted according to their “ordinary meaning”. There is some confusion about what that means and how that might be defined in the future. How will the objectives help stakeholders to understand what the broad aspirations and general policy direction are, and how will they be measured? Will you further define the objectives and what their expected outcomes will look like? If so, when?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2024
Finlay Carson
I was referring to the terms in the objectives. Take the objective on regenerative and sustainable agriculture for example. How might that be defined?
There could be issues further down the road because of the United Kingdom Internal Market Act 2020 or something else, and there could be an argument about what the ordinary description is. That could be solved by being more specific about what the objectives mean in practice.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2024
Finlay Carson
There was a suggestion that we should try to finish the first session at 1 o’clock, but I am minded to carry on until 1.45 at the latest. We will continue to consider the amendments.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2024
Finlay Carson
We intend to finish at 1.45, which should be before your committee reconvenes. That will also give people time to prepare for questions this afternoon. I will press on. We may finish before 1.45. We indicated that we expected to finish the session by 1 o’clock but, given the progress that we have made, we need to try to push on a little bit. However, I take on board your comments.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2024
Finlay Carson
I am really confused. We know what the status quo is. The committee will have to comment on and, ultimately, amend the bill that is in front of us. The level of the cap that you foresee being in place in the future will be critical to our larger farms and, as we have heard, to some of our smaller producers. When will you make it clear exactly what your position is on capping, top slicing or front loading? We are now at the business end of the bill process. We know where we are at the moment, but we need to know where we will be in two or three years’ time. Surely you can give us some indication of whether it is your intention to extend the capping powers or to retain them at the level that they are at just now.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2024
Finlay Carson
I call Rachael Hamilton to wind up and press or withdraw amendment 85B.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2024
Finlay Carson
On the introduction of new legislation and secondary legislation, it is quite clear that the conveners of committees across the Parliament have concerns about framework bills and the additional workload that committees will have in dealing with the related SSIs. What work or process planning have you done on secondary legislation?
We have seen some bad examples. There is a suite of instruments regarding deer management, but we get to consider only one or two SSIs in isolation although they form a far bigger policy. Have you planned how you will introduce secondary legislation? Will it be grouped so that there are suites or packages of SSIs that deliver on certain policies, or is the committee going to see two years’ worth of SSIs? That would make it very difficult for us to see the big picture. What work have you done on that?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2024
Finlay Carson
Okay. Thanks. The next question is from Beatrice Wishart.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2024
Finlay Carson
The question is, that amendment 85C be agreed to. Are we agreed?
Members: No.