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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

Will the new powers and having to enforce them have any effect on NatureScot’s capacity?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

We know that the code of practice has to be approved by Parliament, but the work with stakeholders to pull the code together has not yet begun. Would it not be desirable for a draft of that code of practice to be available prior to stage 3 of these proceedings, so that we know what it is likely to look like and stakeholders know what is coming down the road?

In other situations where framework bills have required a code of practice, it has been quite some time before that code of practice has been approved, and there have also been some difficulties with issues around the guidance on the Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Act 2023, aspects of the code of practice for the Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Act 2024 and even with the definitions in the Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Act 2024. Therefore, do you agree that it would be sensible for the work on producing the code of practice to start now and for the Parliament to be able to see what it looks like in draft form prior to the bill going through?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you, Mr Mountain. For the first evidence session, I welcome to the meeting Donald Fraser, who is the head of wildlife management, and Robbie Kernahan, who is the director of green economy, both at NatureScot. We have approximately 60 minutes for the session. Before we move on, let me make you aware that you do not need to operate your microphones. We have a gentleman here who will do that for you.

I will kick off with the first question. Section 10 of the bill amends part 1 of the Deer (Scotland) Act 1996, which covers NatureScot’s deer functions. The bill updates the aims and purposes of deer management to include the public interest. Additionally, NatureScot should now take account of the environment when carrying out its functions. Will that change what NatureScot is already doing on the ground? How will it affect NatureScot’s resources and capacity?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

So, you are not considering starting to work on that so that we can give some reassurance to stakeholders and land managers at the moment.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

Good morning, and welcome to the 14th meeting of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee in 2025. Before we begin, I remind everyone to switch their electronic devices to silent.

We have received apologies from Evelyn Tweed. I welcome Mark Ruskell, who is joining us as our newest member, and take this opportunity to thank Ariane Burgess for her contribution to the committee’s work since the beginning of the parliamentary session. Edward Mountain will also be joining us at some stage this morning.

The first item on our agenda is consideration of the Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. Today, our focus will be on part 4 of the bill, which is on deer management. First, we will hear from representatives of NatureScot. We will then host a round-table discussion with nine stakeholders with an interest in deer management in Scotland.

Edward Mountain has joined us. Would you like to make any declarations of interest?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Finlay Carson

Is the minister content with the bill’s current wording in relation to relationship breakdown?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Finlay Carson

Specifically, though, given our understanding that the common-law offence of breach of the peace is being replaced by the use of the section 38 offence, do you think that there will be a similar trend in respect of dog theft? Will we see more people being prosecuted under the section 38 offence?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Finlay Carson

In his letter to the committee, Maurice Golden quotes evidence that shows that the common-law offence of breach of the peace has, increasingly, been replaced by an offence under section 38 of the Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Act 2010. He then goes on to say that

“it is likely that there will be a similar trend in respect of the theft of a dog”.

Do you agree with that assumption?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you. We will move on to our final questions, which are on the financial memorandum.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Finlay Carson

I have one final question on Police Scotland recording the data. Mr Wilson responded to an earlier question on that.

Would the Scottish Government consider amending the crime recording standard to require dog theft to be recorded as a specific stand-alone offence, rather than as an offence of robbery, theft or housebreaking?