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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Finlay Carson

Before we bring the previous question to an end, I want to ask something. Martin Kennedy, we have talked about flexibility and adaptability, but we also need safeguards in the legislation. What do you want to see in the bill? Do you want safeguarded payments for tier 1 or tier 2 or some reassurance about conditionality going forward, to bring more certainty, rather than waiting for secondary legislation, of which, as we have heard, there is less scrutiny? What do you expect to see in the bill?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Finlay Carson

You have put that on record already.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Finlay Carson

The specific question is whether you are making compromises on behalf of farmers so that you can speak with a single voice.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Finlay Carson

Tim, you wanted to add a comment.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Finlay Carson

I will bring in Tim Bailey before moving to questions from Ariane Burgess.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Finlay Carson

Rachael Hamilton, is your question a supplementary one about Vicki Swales’s response?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Finlay Carson

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the seventh meeting in 2023 of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee. I remind members who are using electronic devices to switch them to silent, please.

Our first item of business is pre-legislative scrutiny of Scotland’s future agriculture policy. Today’s evidence session is with members of the agriculture reform implementation oversight board and its agriculture policy development group. I welcome Martin Kennedy, Tim Bailey, Anne Rae MacDonald and Kate Rowell, who are members of the ARIOB, and Vicki Swales, who is a member of the ARIOB agriculture policy development group.

We have approximately 90 minutes for questions and discussion, so we will finish at approximately 10:30.

I will kick off the questions. What is the ARIOB’s core purpose? How is it supporting policy reform? Can you also give an indication of the board’s current work programme?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Finlay Carson

Tim Bailey, I put the same question to you. Why is it so slow? We have known since 2016 that we were going to need something to replace the common agricultural policy, and the climate and biodiversity crises are nothing new. Why has progress been so slow?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Finlay Carson

Do you think that the Government is in danger of losing control of farming when we see the early adopters taking all the action that they think they need to take—for example, reducing inputs and looking at methane and carbon—while they wait for policy to be developed?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Finlay Carson

Before I come to Martin Kennedy, I will ask a question. You say that there is no conflict, so is there compromise? I am quite sure that Vicki will have a different opinion from Martin on capping, and I am quite sure that she will have a different opinion from Tim on genetic editing or whatever. When you respond, can you bear that in mind? We are talking about pots of money.