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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

Ross Ewing wants to comment on that point, after which we will move on to the next question.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

Welcome back. We are now joined by nine stakeholders who have an interest in deer management—I do not know whether that is a herd, a flock or a cacophony, but you are all welcome. I will invite you all to introduce yourselves in a moment.

We have allocated approximately two hours for the discussion. As you will have seen from the previous session, we have many questions to get through, so I ask everybody to be succinct in their questions and answers. Some questions will warrant no more than a yes or no response—I know that that may be incredibly difficult, but other questions will require more discussion so that we can hear the various voices. I ask you to indicate to me or to the clerks if you wish to participate at any point. It is not expected that everybody will speak to every point, especially if you feel that the point has already been made. Likewise, if you feel that a part of the discussion does not relate to your area of expertise, you should not feel that you need to respond to every question.

I remind you that you do not need to operate your microphones—we have a gentleman who will do that for you. I invite you all to introduce yourselves, starting with Dick Playfair, on my left.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

How does that work in practice? Is it about making sure that your guest is within sight when they are shooting? Is that effectively what it means? If you were accompanying a visitor, would you need to be within earshot, eyeshot or whatever for that to be allowed?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

We talked about the refereeing and NatureScot effectively being able to authorise someone being on the register who does not have the DSC1 qualification. It would be helpful to the committee if we knew that that work was starting now, so that we know what the transition to the new authorisation will be. Would you take that on now, a bit like the code of practice, and start working on it so that the committee and the Parliament can have confidence that we will not fall off a cliff edge?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

You talk about landscape scale. How will that work with the voluntary arrangement, when you might have people opting in or opting out? Will that increase the number of times that you will have to statutorily, rather than voluntarily, enforce deer numbers? Have you considered that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

I have a brief technical question about section 8. The bill suggests that a control scheme should be registered in respect of titles to the land. Should there be something in the bill to allow, in the event of the title changing hands, the control scheme to change back to a control agreement? Would that not be more reasonable, given that the new owners might be willing to put in place voluntary measures to control deer? Do we need to be aware of that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you, Mr Mountain. Thank you, Robbie Kernahan and Donald Fraser, for your responses this morning. They are much appreciated.

10:17 Meeting suspended.  

10:26 On resuming—  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

We are almost bang on time. We have two minutes for any final comments.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

I would like a bit of clarification around the venison dealers licence and the removal of that requirement. Is there a consensus that we should be looking at replacing the licence or at least having something that will address some of your concerns, with a date for the removal of venison dealers licences at some point in the future? Should that form part of the bill?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

The last word goes to Peter Clark.