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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Finlay Carson

I am sorry—I was speaking to Mike Radford. From the evidence that you have given us and the comments that you have made, Mike, it would appear that you want an all-out ban.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Finlay Carson

Okay. Thank you.

I do not believe that there are any more questions, so I thank you all very much for your evidence today. It has been hugely useful, and we appreciate the time that you have taken to join us this morning. We will take further evidence on the petition in April and May.

11:35 Meeting continued in private until 12:19.  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Finlay Carson

Our next item of business is consideration of petition PE1758. I welcome representatives of the Scottish Animal Welfare Commission to the meeting. Professor Cathy Dwyer is chair of the commission. Joining us remotely are Mike Radford and Dr Ellie Wigham, who are members of the commission.

Committee members will recall that the Scottish Animal Welfare Commission submitted a report to the committee on the welfare of greyhounds used for racing in Scotland. I invite Cathy Dwyer to make an opening statement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Finlay Carson

That would seem to be a massive gap, given that more than 85 per cent of the dogs that race in Scotland come from there and your recommendations are based on the whole life cycle of a greyhound.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Finlay Carson

In the same context, the letter also states:

“Other provisions include powers for inspectors to gather evidence, to issue care notices if an animal’s welfare needs are not being met and to take animals into possession to protect their welfare if they are suffering or likely to suffer if their circumstances do not change.”

Are you aware of any care notices being issued to any greyhound owners or greyhound track owners in Scotland under that provision?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Finlay Carson

I should have said at the start of the meeting that we have been joined by Mark Ruskell, who, although not a member of the committee, has a particular interest in the topic. Mark, would you like to ask some questions?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Finlay Carson

Thank you.

I want to pick up one other point. One view is that independent oversight and regulation are required, and you have suggested that that sort of thing might come under the auspices of the new Scottish veterinary service. Can you give an indication of when that service might be formulated and come into being?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Finlay Carson

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our 10th meeting of 2023. Before we begin, I remind members who are using electronic devices to switch them to silent, please.

Our first item of business is a decision to take items 3 and 4 in private and to review the evidence heard on petition PE1758, on ending greyhound racing in Scotland, in private at future meetings. Do members agree to do that?

Members indicated agreement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Finlay Carson

But you did not look to Ireland.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Finlay Carson

I have a question before Jim Fairlie comes in. A lot of the evidence that you have given us is anecdotal. You mentioned the potential for dogs to be bred in Ireland and there being no regulation of them, but you have no evidence of that, and you do not have any evidence of how many puppies are being transported to Scotland.

We have talked about training methods, and you said that you had no evidence on, or that you had not done any work to find out, whether those were positive or negative. Therefore, you did not do any work to get any more evidence on two of the really important issues.

In addition, your report says that the racing dog in Scotland

“currently has poorer welfare than the average of other dogs in the population.”

You have spoken about companion dogs. Did you compare a greyhound with other types of working dogs? Are the welfare standards for greyhounds that are bred for racing lower, on average, than those for other working dogs?