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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Finlay Carson

The next agenda item is consideration of two negative Scottish statutory instruments. I will start by asking for comments on the Tuberculosis (Scotland) Order 2023.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the 14th meeting in 2023 of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee. Before we begin, I remind members who are using electronic devices to switch them to silent, please.

We have received apologies from Karen Adam, and I welcome Emma Harper, who is attending in Karen’s place. Rhoda Grant is joining the meeting remotely.

Our first item of business is a decision on whether to take item 4 in private. Are we agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Yes, but if the status quo of 25 per cent mortality is not acceptable, you must have a rough idea of what the rate should be. If we look at the livestock industry and see that there is a mortality rate of 10 per cent, we want to improve that and get it to 5 per cent mortality. Surely there is an idea in the framework—maybe not a definitive target but a direction of travel—to get us closer to whatever the figure is. There must be some indication of what that might be.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Finlay Carson

The next questions are from Ariane Burgess.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Finlay Carson

You need to be careful, given that there is a public inquiry.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Can we leave that for the moment? I will bring you in later when we touch on mortality. There are a few questions about that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Emma Harper is next.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Our next item of business is an evidence session on salmon farming in Scotland. I welcome to the meeting Mairi Gougeon, Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Land Reform and Islands; Jill Barber, head of aquaculture development at the Scottish Government; and Malcolm Pentland, deputy director and lead for marine economy and communities at the Scottish Government. I also welcome Edward Mountain MSP, who is attending for this agenda item.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Thank you very much, cabinet secretary. It was 2018 when the Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform Committee and the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee undertook the investigation into the impacts of aquaculture. I remember clearly it being said—it might even have been me who said it—that

“The status quo is not an option.”

We are quite some time down the road from then. A range of the questions today will probably be about whether we still have the status quo of five years ago and whether anything has changed. My specific question is this: what efforts have been made to address the issues around waste from farmed fish on the environment, particularly on the sea bed? Where have there been changes? What improvements have been made on sea bed waste? What are the challenges ahead as we look to increase the output from aquaculture?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Thank you.

The Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee and the Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform Committee both felt that there should be greater use of the precautionary principle. The first stated:

“The Scottish Government should provide strong and clear leadership in ensuring that the precautionary principle is applied, producing appropriate policy and guidance documents as necessary.”

Furthermore, the ECCLR Committee considered an independent assessment of the environmental sustainability of the predicted growth of the sector to be necessary.

There was a move to take fish of a heavier weight or that are older onshore. We talked about moving them offshore so that the time in which the fish are in cages in the sea is reduced. The impact of that might be to reduce the use of chemicals, to reduce mortality, or whatever. However, given the statements that I have just given, what work is being done to look at the additional impact of sea lice? Sea lice do not need to be controlled to such levels with older fish. What impact might that weight of sea lice load have on wild salmon populations? Is that something that you are looking at?