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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Is it in the public interest to have an annual licence when there might be no evidence that things have changed? It also takes away some of the certainty that is necessary for investment in grouse moors. Is it really worth an annual review or process? I know that you say that the process will be simple, but is it really needed?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Thank you. I am sorry—I have no intention to put words in your mouth. I just want some clarity on whether we could make an improvement in the bill.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

This evidence session has been hugely useful. Thank you very much for your contributions. We will now move into private session.

12:48 Meeting continued in private until 12:56.  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Will land where the peat is more than 40cm deep have to be of a certain area before a licence is required? For example, will it have to be half an acre, three acres or whatever? Unless these areas are looked at in detail, is there not a risk that someone could inadvertently not apply for the right licence, because the peat in some areas of their estate is 40cm deep?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

To know whether it has increased or decreased since 2012 would be helpful, too.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Therefore, a straightforward police investigation—if someone phones up to say that there is a dead golden eagle on a certain estate and the police investigate—would be grounds for the regulator to suspend a licence.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

That is a concern, if there are potentially people who wish to cause disruption to licensing at particular times of the year.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Will there be something in the bill to ensure that that is the case, given that there will almost certainly be vexatious claims of raptor persecution? Do we not need safeguards in the bill to avoid that happening? The damage to an estate could be significant, as could the knock-on effect on those who work on the estate and any associated businesses.

11:30  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

I am concerned that this is a double whammy. For example, if you were to shoot a golden eagle on land that was not designated as grouse moor, the penalty that you would get would be different from what you would get if you had been on a grouse moor. How do the implications of that sit with the European Court of Human Rights?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

I call Ariane Burgess.