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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 March 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Finlay Carson

I appreciate that some restorations are of higher quality and result in greater amounts of carbon sequestration. That would suggest an improvement in the accuracy of emissions reporting. However, it is quite clear that the targets are based on hectares. We must not conflate the targets, which are in hectares, with the emission reductions. Given that the target to restore 250,000 hectares by 2030 is not likely to be met, how will you ensure the target to restore 400,000 hectares by 2040 target is met?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Finlay Carson

I suppose that it is all about being pragmatic, transparent and honest with people about what the targets mean. Justifying a reduction in the number of hectares restored by suggesting that you restored fewer hectares but achieved greater carbon capture is not particularly transparent.

Should we not be looking at one or tother? We should either be looking at emissions reductions through improved peatland restoration, or looking at the target for restoration by hectarage. Why do we have the different approaches, going by the area restored and by emissions reductions? Why are we conflating the two rather than being a little more transparent?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Finlay Carson

Okay. Thank you, cabinet secretary, and thank you to your officials. That concludes our questions. I will suspend the meeting for 15 minutes, to allow for a changeover of witnesses and a comfort break.

11:09

Meeting suspended.

11:25

On resuming—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Finlay Carson

That is a good starting basis. I will go around the table, as people will want to feed back on some of the comments that Kenneth has made. I will bring in Michael Heath first.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Finlay Carson

On a point of clarification, we heard previously that closure was all about ensuring the best spawning conditions. We heard that leisure boats or whatever were being excluded because they would have an impact. I remember cringeing at hearing some of the evidence from the Scottish Government that the noise of engines could affect the ability of cod to spawn. Are you being clear, however, that there is no issue with spawning? The fish that go to spawn are spawning quite happily, if you want to put it that way. In fact, the spawning level is actually increasing in the Clyde. Is that, in effect, what you are saying?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Finlay Carson

I am really sorry to interrupt, but can we focus on the science at the moment? We will go on to alternative methods later in the questioning, so I ask members to stick to questions in science.

Beatrice Wishart, do you have a question around the science and the Government’s approach?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Finlay Carson

Okay. Thank you. I—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Finlay Carson

We will now hear from Esther Brooker and then from Professor Heath again.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Finlay Carson

Do you also want to ask your question now, Emma? We can then address the two questions together.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Finlay Carson

I am sorry to interrupt you. We will come back to the socioeconomic part of it so that you can focus on that. We appreciate that that impact is an incredibly important part of the legislation, and I will come back to you on it, but let us come back to the science again.