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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Finlay Carson

The result of the division is: For 1, Against 6, Abstentions 2.

Amendment 297 disagreed to.

Amendment 298 moved—[Ross Greer].

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Finlay Carson

The result of the division is: For 7, Against 2, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 35 agreed to.

Section 34 agreed to.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Finlay Carson

The question is, that amendment 326 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Finlay Carson

There will be a division.

For

Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con)
Eagle, Tim (Highlands and Islands) (Con)

Against

Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP)
Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP)
Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP)
Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD)

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Finlay Carson

The result of the division is: For 2, Against 7, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 326 disagreed to.

Amendments 327 and 269 to 271 not moved.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Finlay Carson

I appreciate that.

I call Emma Harper to wind up the debate and to press or withdraw amendment 273.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Finlay Carson

If you would like to take the intervention, that is fine.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Finlay Carson

The result of the division is: For 2, Against 7, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 90 disagreed to.

Amendment 91 moved—[Mark Ruskell].

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Finlay Carson

I appreciate the cabinet secretary’s comments, but amendment 338 already highlights some of the issues that you say need to be discussed in the future. There are standards and certification in place for shell cleaning and processing, and there will always be record keeping and traceability requirements, which are mentioned in the amendment.

If there are no contamination issues with clean shells—the amendment is specifically about clean shells—finding workarounds to the waste management and animal by-product regulations will add cost, such as consultancy costs, waste management licence consultations and licence costs. Amendment 338 would take that away in a situation in which there is no issue with clean shells, and, again, the amendment makes it quite clear that the shells have to be clean. I am concerned that we would have a workaround rather than a perfectly simple, acceptable and inexpensive forever solution that would mean that companies would not have to deal with licensing or engage with SEPA or whatever. If they had a product that complied with the provisions in amendment 338, they could avoid the cost of putting that shell in the market.

I am not minded to withdraw amendment 338. If there are any technical issues that relate to the regulations that are in place, we could look to amend the provision at stage 3, but I would like to put down a marker that this is the right way forward. It would be good for a fishing industry that, as I have said, is facing ever-increasing pressures on its ability to fish as widely as possible, and it would maximise the full benefit of the scallop and its shell as a product. As I say, I am not minded to withdraw the amendment. I will press it to a vote as a marker, and we will work out any technical issues before stage 3.

The question is, that amendment 338 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Finlay Carson

The result of the division is: For 5, Against 4, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 338 agreed to.

Before section 34

Amendment 35 moved—[Gillian Martin].

Amendment 35A moved—[Rachael Hamilton].