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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Good morning, and welcome to the 32nd meeting in 2023 of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee. I remind anyone using an electronic device to please switch it to silent. We begin with a round-table session on the Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill. Today’s session will focus on one of the key objectives of the bill, which is the adoption and use of sustainable regenerative agricultural practices. However, we will have the opportunity to branch out into wider aspects of the bill. We have scheduled two and a half hours for this session.

I welcome Dr Liz Barron-Majerik, the director of Lantra Scotland; Nigel Miller, the co-chair of Farming for 1.5°; Professor Cathy Dwyer, the chair of the Scottish Animal Welfare Commission and professor of animal and veterinary sciences at Scotland’s Rural College; Dave McKay, the head of policy at the Soil Association in Scotland; Dr Lorna Cole, a senior consultant from SRUC; Ross Paton, the chair of the Scottish Organic Stakeholders Group; Dr Tara Wight, the policy and campaigns co-ordinator for the Landworkers Alliance for Scotland; and Dr Vera Eory from SRUC. We also have Kirsty Jenkins, policy officer for OneKind, and Donald MacKinnon, chair of the Scottish Crofting Federation, who are joining us remotely.

As per tradition, I will kick off with a general question. What are your views on the adoption of sustainable and regenerative agricultural practices? What are the objectives? Who would like to kick off with their views?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

How are we going to do that in the bill? The term “sustainable and regenerative”, for example, means a lot of different things to a lot of different people, so how on earth will we narrow down the definitions in the bill so that they are useful for farmers in shaping how they farm in the future?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

As there are no other comments on that, I will suspend the meeting to allow for a comfort break.

10:40 Meeting suspended.  

10:52 On resuming—  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

It might just be outwith the scope of what we can do in the meeting, but does anyone have any comments on potential interactions between the bill and future bills that relate to gene editing?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Our final question is from Ariane Burgess.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Yes.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

You ask for “more thought”. Would you like to see something written directly into the bill?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

We will move to a question from Beatrice Wishart.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

I will bring in Liz Barron-Majerik and then Tara Wight.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

I see that Kirsty Jenkins wants to come in.